Shamarah vs. Diamante

by Shamarah

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Athana2006-09-12 03:10:52
I wanna fight Diamante some time...I really have no practice against shadowdancers. I think the last one I fought was Aranya and her system was messed up sad.gif And yes I use to think faeriefire was useless but its definitely a must for tracking lashed limbs and seeing which way people leave
Shiri2006-09-12 03:23:45
It's really poor against people with focus spirit, but for everyone else (and not a huge number of people have it) it's great!
Sylphas2006-09-12 03:43:57
QUOTE(Shiri @ Sep 11 2006, 11:23 PM) 330402
It's really poor against people with focus spirit, but for everyone else (and not a huge number of people have it) it's great!

If they focus spirit every time you faeriefire, shouldn't be hard to toadcurse them.
Shiri2006-09-12 03:47:54
I guess if you faeriefire only after they're already asleep and aeoned so they're at the stage where you can lash without it just being futile anyway.
Athana2006-09-12 04:26:51
Yes focus spirit! So I can run your mana out faster with all that clotting...lucky blacktalon with the mana instakill *mutter*
Shorlen2006-09-12 05:08:17
QUOTE(Athana @ Sep 12 2006, 12:26 AM) 330449
Yes focus spirit! So I can run your mana out faster with all that clotting...lucky blacktalon with the mana instakill *mutter*

I'm so jealous of that mana instakill sad.gif I've drained people down to 0 before.
Sylphas2006-09-12 11:42:34
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Sep 12 2006, 01:08 AM) 330462

I'm so jealous of that mana instakill sad.gif I've drained people down to 0 before.

Aww, no love for Gore? I mean, it's fun to do do at least. Even if it's not useful at all.
Xavius2006-09-12 12:47:00
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Sep 12 2006, 12:08 AM) 330462

I'm so jealous of that mana instakill sad.gif I've drained people down to 0 before.


I've drained people to zero and still failed to pull it off, but yeah, it's nicer than gore.
Shorlen2006-09-12 14:21:17
The thing about having a mana instakill is that if you can kill another way, you don't have to use the instakill to have it be effective. If they stop clotting because they don't want to go below half mana, and if they stop using focusspirit to cure faeriefire (which is annoying when trying to thornrend), having the instakill has helped you.
Sylphas2006-09-12 14:51:16
Whereas a quarter health instakill is worthless. They have to heal their health anyway, or they'll die with or without Gore, so it doesn't put any extra pressure on them or give us any other options. sad.gif
Unknown2006-09-12 14:55:17
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Sep 12 2006, 07:51 AM) 330571

Whereas a quarter health instakill is worthless. They have to heal their health anyway, or they'll die with or without Gore, so it doesn't put any extra pressure on them or give us any other options. sad.gif


Get REND envoyed for Gore's Impale. Or at least a way to WITHDRAW. Then you'll have something, at least.
Narsrim2006-09-12 15:37:44
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Sep 11 2006, 08:37 PM) 330318

If you're aiming to stack mental afflictions, masochism is still a bad choice, when we have dementia and confusion to pick from as well. And with allheale, focus, and herbs, it's not really hard to cure a totem, regardless of what we stick on it. If no defenders are there, totems aren't going to stop anyone who cure. If we are there, I'd rather the raiders not have shroud then have an extra affliction doing nothing but making it a tiny bit harder to cure.


Dementia isn't cured by focus mind so that's a moot point. The best setup is: paralyse, impatience, hypochondria, confusion, hallucinations, stupidity.

As for gore, Munsia found a lot of use for it against targets with insane health like Daevos. 25% of his max health can be like 2500-3000 health left...
Sylphas2006-09-12 16:19:20
It doesn't really matter, Narsrim. Unless someone is standing at the totem, it's cured in a few seconds regardless of what the hell you stick on it. There are many, many people who can't cure faeriefire, but have no problem with confusion.

If 3k is 25% of your health, you have 12k max. If a druid can deal 9k damage to you, you're messed up enough that they'll have no problem finishing you.
Unknown2006-09-12 16:50:28
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Sep 12 2006, 09:19 AM) 330595

It doesn't really matter, Narsrim. Unless someone is standing at the totem, it's cured in a few seconds regardless of what the hell you stick on it. There are many, many people who can't cure faeriefire, but have no problem with confusion.

If 3k is 25% of your health, you have 12k max. If a druid can deal 9k damage to you, you're messed up enough that they'll have no problem finishing you.


Unless its a group battle, in which case assessing and landing a gore could save your side a few rounds of hammering on a rock.. which could really turn the tide. Its not very good in 1v1, but it could be a battle-winner on group combat. Taking out a titan or demi-god in a group can really do quite a bit of good, even if just for morale.

Oh.. and can you put rad on totems? I don't remember.. but with the proper set-up, that could be pretty useful at entrance points, as it has a chance of flinging them back out and making them do it all over again. And in the case that it flings them further in, just move guards from the entrance room back, so that they'll be either flung out, or into guards and another totem (allowing you to stack additional afflictions as well)

But that's only if you can place rad on a totem, which I dunno if you can.
Narsrim2006-09-12 16:53:22
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Sep 12 2006, 12:19 PM) 330595

It doesn't really matter, Narsrim. Unless someone is standing at the totem, it's cured in a few seconds regardless of what the hell you stick on it. There are many, many people who can't cure faeriefire, but have no problem with confusion.

If 3k is 25% of your health, you have 12k max. If a druid can deal 9k damage to you, you're messed up enough that they'll have no problem finishing you.


It does matter and I speak from experience. It may be difficult to grasp since you never raid. If you run into a statue/totem with guards, those precious extra seconds of holding someone down is the difference between life and death. Also, the more mental afflictions you have means the less likely the target is to instantly cure hallucinations, which stuns and knocks prone - highly effective against people who fly on brooms/mounts after hitting a totem.

As for Gore and the situation I described, there are times when that instant kill at 25% max health is going to be more effective than trying to cudgel and risk them tumbling away or what not.

QUOTE(Fallen @ Sep 12 2006, 12:50 PM) 330600

Unless its a group battle, in which case assessing and landing a gore could save your side a few rounds of hammering on a rock.. which could really turn the tide. Its not very good in 1v1, but it could be a battle-winner on group combat. Taking out a titan or demi-god in a group can really do quite a bit of good, even if just for morale.

Oh.. and can you put rad on totems? I don't remember.. but with the proper set-up, that could be pretty useful at entrance points, as it has a chance of flinging them back out and making them do it all over again. And in the case that it flings them further in, just move guards from the entrance room back, so that they'll be either flung out, or into guards and another totem (allowing you to stack additional afflictions as well)

But that's only if you can place rad on a totem, which I dunno if you can.


You can't put rad on totems.
Sylphas2006-09-12 17:52:56
You're right, I don't raid, because if there are even two guards on a totem, I have a pretty good chance of dying, and definitely if there are three. I also have maybe three triggers total, and two of them are for harvesting.

Would you walk into a totem, knowing that if stupidity hit one command wrong, you'd die? I'd think it much more likely that you give yourself the best possible chance of raiding successfully, either avoiding the totem, or only hitting it (on purpose at least) when you're pretty sure you won't die.
Narsrim2006-09-12 23:01:34
I used to do it all the time in Glomdoring wink.gif

It was so bad at one point that their totems had the worst possible rune setup I've ever seen that I talked Xavius into changing them (at which I did die the next time, but oh well).
Shamarah2006-09-12 23:16:26
Being able to put rad on totems/statues would be amusing.
Sylphas2006-09-12 23:37:20
It would be very very good for communes, and insane for cities. Since you can theoretically put up a functioning statue in every room of your city, anyone who entered and hit a statue would bounce around until thrown back out of the city. It would be utterly impossible to raid.

EDIT: And now that I think about it, you have a lot of rooms, and only a few exits. An unlucky stretch of rads could just lag the server for a while until you finally do pop back out.
Athana2006-09-12 23:48:05
You could totally raid the ducky pond and park area in Celest! No Statues yay! tongue.gif

P.S. I miss Tuek. Stopping to feed the ducks while being chased by a bunch of people was just too cute.