Nah don't worry. All the people in-game I have problems with I didnt' have problems with until I actually met them.

I got crap for the stuff I used to do or say a year or two ago, and every thread I made was an oppurtunity to jump on me and gangbeat me to death.

I support Exarius, and will watch what he does with interest. It isn't the first time someone besides me has tried to create a large organization, and while I think that there may only be enough rogueness-with-a-bigass-manse for one of them, at least he's doing what he likes.

His character felt persecuted, so he made his own place, using a manse. He's put money into it, which supports Lusternia, and keeps it running. He's created a place for you (meaning the people that wish to join or wander around it) to be in, much like I did. Did I need 100 rooms? Did I need to chip in money for Every private room in the city that people bought? No. But you know what, people seemed to like it, so if Exarius feels he wants to do something similar, than so be it.

The point of the thread was to explain his organization. Now back off if you aren't going to say something nice.

Zorana actually is a separate political entity, because many of the primary contributors have no other allegiance. We didn't secede from any union, we created a new one.

As for those members who also belong to one of the big four (as I call them), well, Zorana is a laid back place and has no problem with dual citizenship. If one of the big four decides it does, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

The place is meant to be low key, undemanding, non-intrusive, and neutral. I call it a commune specifically to (1) contrast it to Deepnight, which has its own ways and character, and (2) stress that our otherwise rogue members that are rogues by choice, who simply want a community setting that, for what ever personal reason, they can't find within the big four.

One of the most common personal reasons, by the way, is there's just too much stress in the usual communities. Our membership skews toward the older players of the game -- those with jobs, kids, mortgages, etc. These tend to be the people with less time but more money to support the game with. And when they get home from work and the kids off to bed, they're not looking for any big battle or drama to cap off the day with. They want to be background players, not war heroes. And there shouldn't be anything wrong with that.

This is what most people have been looking for really.
See, you could have explained it as such in the beginning, and everyone will understand. Saying something against one org in the beginning is like seeking trouble, especially something thats been said over and over and over in seperate forums.

Sarvasti, the main purpose of the Shanthine Pride is as the home for Exarius' extensive harem. Just FYI. As for your other points, until they get nexuses (which they won't) and tutors (ditto) they really can't be considered viable "options".

Judging by Exarius' last post, it doesn't look like it's meant to be. That's fine.

Thanks... That is indeed what I missed!



Here is my question... Is Zorana going to turn into Zathustra, and end up becoming a ship, and like Ackelberry sever itself from the reast of the basin, pretending it severed itself from reality?

Because a giant commune floating in aetherspace as a home for people, sounds really cool!

Zorana sounds like a very nice commune, I wish its members wouldn't be so shy about talking about it to me

Zathustra or the house in the movie Zathura?

The house in the movie... too many Z words.

Until it gets blown up by Gorgogs. Aetherspace mechanics makes creating your own artificial bubble impossible.

You can't stick yourself to a vortex and just keep sucking?

If you have people 24/7 manning the turrets, maybe.

Making the Shanthine Pride specifically for the harem would have been really, realy dumb on my part. Just FYI.

I refuse to allow any non-feline's in the pride (sole exception Felandi, who BTW is not in the harem, but let's not derail), and back when I founded it, that was a huge deal. Aslaran of both sexes were few and far between, and a lady hardly has to be asalran to get my attention. I know you've got this "furry lust" theory about me, but I could dig up plenty of testimonials from human and elfen women if there was any point to it.

The harem is the harem. The pride is the pride. And I've recently even shelled out for another clan just to make the division more distinct.



If you're a rogue anyway, you're not going to miss the lack of nexus. And while a tutor would be nice, again, if you're a rogue anyway, having the other rogues around gives you a pool of player tutors to hook up with.

Like I said, this is for the people who want to be background, not war heroes. For many of us, the amenities we CAN provide are enough.






Nothing like that currently on the agenda. *grin*



Hadn't been aware people were shy about it.

Feel free to look me up to discuss it. Rhosyn and Isluna should also be quite forthcoming if you can find them.

Ah, so that's what it is...Sorry I really had no idea til now.

What I wrote was just a joke. I didn't mean to imply anything. I just wanted a reason to use a fight club quote

Sorry! Only have access to the net during the day until the 20th.

There's a lot of people to whom it isn't a joke, I'm afraid. I've been hearing forever that the Pride and the Harem are one and the same, I didn't want to start hearing that Zorana and the Harem are one and the same.

If you count being phsically threatened, blocked from browsing at certain shops, threats of being ostracized...

Yeah, I'd say some are being harassed for being members.

Rhosyn

(Not all the above apply to a single person, just to clarify.)

I know I don't.

Most of the basin can't buy from a majority of the shops in the basin, which is not harassment that is just normal. Shop owners generally get to do whatever they want, as long as they pay taxes, and don't get themselves enemied. It's just their loss if they willingly choose to decrease their possible customer base.