How are these hammers?

by Gandal

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Gandal2006-09-14 23:19:19
So, one of my alts took up forging and forged two hammers, and they're 59-111-230 and 48-144-213. Is that good for a regular hammer? I'm a total noob at weapons and warriors and stuff.
Clise2006-09-15 01:19:48
Hmmm depends on whether you plan to use them to hunt or fight with I guess. Hunting generally goes for weapons with over 270 speed and fighting ... good weapons that I know of are xx/195+/230+ (Note that this only applies to rapiers and hammers)
Raysicia2006-09-15 03:02:05
hunters do not generally go with 270+ speed weapons... only extremly patient forgers, or rich people, will ever see those to be honest, or really lucky.

But that being said... for bashing, speed is king, swords, speed is rapier, blunt, hammer, two-handed is katana, and Klangaxe for axes.

For PvP, Damage or ( precision). Sword: Broad(scimatar) Blunt, Flail(Morning Star), Two Hander Greatsword(CLaymore) and Axes Warzxe (greataxe)
Terenas2006-09-15 03:38:00
Even for two-handers you would want two fast weapons for hunting. This is because at Trans Knighthood it is irregardless of what type of weapons you use so a Pureblade will be able to hunt just as well as a Blademaster with two rapiers.
Raysicia2006-09-15 03:48:30
I hunt better with my Katana, then I do with two rapiers. Takes fewer hits, and I hit more often.
Tekora2006-09-15 04:20:29
Well, I've recently had a lot of experience with non-master weapons, finding the max stats for them. Note that all these stats are for NON-MASTER RAPIERS AND HAMMERS.

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- Damage range is 35-70.
- Precision range is 100-150.
- Speed range is 190-250.

I managed to forge a 49/116/243 rapier, and haven't been able to repeat the feat, so think of that as exceptional stats. For basic decent stats, you'll want at least 220 speed and more than 400 total. That's my two cents.
Clise2006-09-15 04:55:57
QUOTE(Raysicia @ Sep 15 2006, 11:02 AM) 331527

hunters do not generally go with 270+ speed weapons... only extremly patient forgers, or rich people, will ever see those to be honest, or really lucky.

But that being said... for bashing, speed is king, swords, speed is rapier, blunt, hammer, two-handed is katana, and Klangaxe for axes.

For PvP, Damage or ( precision). Sword: Broad(scimatar) Blunt, Flail(Morning Star), Two Hander Greatsword(CLaymore) and Axes Warzxe (greataxe)


actually 270+ speed weapons are more prevalent than you think. Its not hard to get a 270+ speed weapon nowadays... but to get the other specs.. heh well...
Ekard2006-09-15 06:18:33
You dotn see much 270+ speed weapons around now, cose im not forger anymore tongue.gif

And yea speed is what makes hunting go fast.
I just started bashing as Aquamancer but its a lot slower then as warrior sad.gif
It would be ok if we could raze!
As Merian with level 1 faster eq im not even close to speed of human with 270+ rapiers.
And raze is goldy in bashing!
Void is too slow use in bashing.
I lose too much time on waiting till somehting attacks me and break shield so i could staffcast again.
And i miss numen sad.gif Im untanky now!!! Two linked urns made me burnout.

Next time i will hunt with my healing demesne up and maybe use sparkleberries.

And as for regular rapier/hammer. speed around 240 is top and total stats around 400 or more are nice.
Clise2006-09-15 10:02:43
QUOTE(Ekard @ Sep 15 2006, 02:18 PM) 331586

You dotn see much 270+ speed weapons around now, cose im not forger anymore tongue.gif

And yea speed is what makes hunting go fast.
I just started bashing as Aquamancer but its a lot slower then as warrior sad.gif
It would be ok if we could raze!
As Merian with level 1 faster eq im not even close to speed of human with 270+ rapiers.
And raze is goldy in bashing!
Void is too slow use in bashing.
I lose too much time on waiting till somehting attacks me and break shield so i could staffcast again.
And i miss numen sad.gif Im untanky now!!! Two linked urns made me burnout.

Next time i will hunt with my healing demesne up and maybe use sparkleberries.

And as for regular rapier/hammer. speed around 240 is top and total stats around 400 or more are nice.


Heh this is where I shall advertise .... TERVIC! He has been forging 270 speed weapons for my shop in Celest wub.gif Infact we have a pair of rapiers with 272 and 278 speed there right now I think.

As for mages compared to warriors, its partly due to tankiness I guess. Warriors can easily out tank most mages, but damage wise I still find that mages do more than warriors while hunting. Unless you are a titan like Ixion or Ekard.
Ekard2006-09-15 10:48:08
QUOTE(Clise @ Sep 15 2006, 12:02 PM) 331637

Heh this is where I shall advertise .... TERVIC! He has been forging 270 speed weapons for my shop in Celest wub.gif Infact we have a pair of rapiers with 272 and 278 speed there right now I think.

As for mages compared to warriors, its partly due to tankiness I guess. Warriors can easily out tank most mages, but damage wise I still find that mages do more than warriors while hunting. Unless you are a titan like Ixion or Ekard.

I bet that if you know where to look you stil lcan find nice weapons. tervic just dont sit in forge for hours like i did tongue.gif

And yea im less tanky now, but i noticed that i'm killing urns slower then as Paladin, and i think its becose i cant raze shields fast. As warrior you can raze and attack and its damn fast. Even if you do just half of damage on raze/hit combo, you still have chance of getting critical. And if mobs shielding then they are low on health as well so in most cases raze/hit was enough for me. Sometimes 2 or 3 times i had to raze/hit but it was when i had bad luck.
As mage i have to wait for mob to attack me cose if i would void he will shield again before i get back eq.
And its still 1-3 staffcasts for urn after he starts shielding. closedeyes.gif
Clise2006-09-15 11:47:14
Hmm when I play my mage, I just put up a reflection when they shield.
Ekard2006-09-15 12:52:59
QUOTE(Clise @ Sep 15 2006, 01:47 PM) 331644

Hmm when I play my mage, I just put up a reflection when they shield.


I dont use reflections. biggrin.gif doh.gif
Raysicia2006-09-15 15:48:50
I forge very good weapons also... in fact I currently have two katanas that are extrodinary.

168/406/229

172/316/274

I lurves them.

I am for hire to! Garentee one high stat, and I take contrcts for max stat weapons. (I will never make a deal for two max stats, not for any small amount of money at least...)
Ekard2006-09-15 17:01:14
QUOTE(Raysicia @ Sep 15 2006, 05:48 PM) 331675

I forge very good weapons also... in fact I currently have two katanas that are extrodinary.

168/406/229

172/316/274

I lurves them.

I am for hire to! Garentee one high stat, and I take contrcts for max stat weapons. (I will never make a deal for two max stats, not for any small amount of money at least...)


Quite nice, not the top, but nice.
And yea, seeking extremly good stats IS time consuming.
So dont sell your time cheap!
Shamarah2006-09-15 21:48:42
QUOTE(Ekard @ Sep 15 2006, 08:52 AM) 331649

I dont use reflections. biggrin.gif doh.gif


Noob. tongue.gif
Gandal2006-09-16 00:25:27
Yeah wub.gif reflections very much. They are your friend.
Tervic2006-09-16 09:41:50
QUOTE(Ekard @ Sep 15 2006, 03:48 AM) 331641

I bet that if you know where to look you stil lcan find nice weapons. tervic just dont sit in forge for hours like i did tongue.gif

You haven't been watching my movement patterns (or total lack thereof) for the last 2 hours then.


Clise2006-09-16 09:44:48
Tervic we are referring to 6 hours nonstop forges or more per day
Murphy2006-09-16 16:18:35
yeh fporging is very time consuming. When i was after my first set of hammers (220+ precision on those babies, 34 damage and about 220 speed) I spent ages and ages forging them, and that was before the cap.
Nico2006-09-19 19:50:22
QUOTE(Murphy @ Sep 16 2006, 12:18 PM) 331937

When i was after my first set of hammers (220+ precision on those babies, 34 damage and about 220 speed)



jawdrop.gif Holy censor.gif that's sick.