Vix2006-09-16 00:16:46
If we take celebate to mean no mudsex then there're tons of those.
Diamondais2006-09-16 00:18:04
QUOTE(Vix @ Sep 15 2006, 08:16 PM) 331771
If we take celebate to mean no mudsex then there're tons of those.
Least someone brought it up.
Unknown2006-09-16 00:50:08
QUOTE(Vix @ Sep 15 2006, 05:16 PM) 331771
If we take celebate to mean no mudsex then there're tons of those.
I was talking about IRL that there are almost no happy/faithful celebate marriages that i've ever heard of.
But like I said, I didn't mean acting it out, but your characters should have a sex life, even if it takes place when both players are logged off and its entirely in the black.
Ista2006-09-16 01:21:05
QUOTE(Fallen @ Sep 15 2006, 06:11 PM) 331768
Not happy or faithful ones.
And have you looked into every culture there is to see if there are no happy celebate ones?
Unknown2006-09-16 01:23:31
QUOTE(Ista @ Sep 15 2006, 06:21 PM) 331794
And have you looked into every culture there is to see if there are no happy celebate ones?
Given the fact that if there was a culture like that, it'd have died out very very very very very very quickly.. you know.. sex is kind of mandatory for said culture to last longer than a century or so. Most cultures in history have been more sexually indulgent than our current one, not less.
Everiine2006-09-16 01:26:08
I hate when people say "only Humans and Viscanti can interbreed". That's crap, I say. It certainly doesn't stop anyone from trying. Hell, Xyl and Trillillial were lovers (not that they did anything that we know of, but still).
As far as I'm concerned, all the races are similar enough to interbreed. Just none of them are as... active as humans in their breeding habits...
As far as I'm concerned, all the races are similar enough to interbreed. Just none of them are as... active as humans in their breeding habits...
Unknown2006-09-16 01:33:08
I hate when people refuse to use logic.
Now, logic dictates that if all races could interbreed, that there would be no reason to point out that humans could. Especially in such a way as "proved to be a most fertile people", which indicates something at least slightly out of the ordinary.
QUOTE(HELP HUMANS)
They proved to be a most fertile people, able to
interbreed with the other races. Because of this, humans range in all
shapes, sizes and colours.
interbreed with the other races. Because of this, humans range in all
shapes, sizes and colours.
Now, logic dictates that if all races could interbreed, that there would be no reason to point out that humans could. Especially in such a way as "proved to be a most fertile people", which indicates something at least slightly out of the ordinary.
Xenthos2006-09-16 01:37:10
QUOTE(Everiine @ Sep 15 2006, 09:26 PM) 331800
I hate when people say "only Humans and Viscanti can interbreed". That's crap, I say. It certainly doesn't stop anyone from trying. Hell, Xyl and Trillillial were lovers (not that they did anything that we know of, but still).
Sure, they can TRY.
Doesn't mean they'll have any offspring, it'll just feel good. Well, you'd hope it does, at least.
Everiine2006-09-16 01:41:41
Point out to me where it says other races can't? That sentence says to me that humans were the best at it, did it all the time, and basically dispersed themselves out among the other races. It does not say anywhere that they are the -only- ones who can, nor does it say no one else can.
Unknown2006-09-16 01:55:25
QUOTE(Everiine @ Sep 15 2006, 06:41 PM) 331813
Point out to me where it says other races can't? That sentence says to me that humans were the best at it, did it all the time, and basically dispersed themselves out among the other races. It does not say anywhere that they are the -only- ones who can, nor does it say no one else can.
Ugh. That's the stupid sort of comment. Really.
So, in the real world, because Lions and Tigers can breed, does that mean Humans and Chimps can? Or Humans and Donkeys? No.
And there's proof about the humans and donkey's - go to Mexico, go into the right bar, and you can see a live show. But i'm betting it will never produce a Half-Donkey Half-Human
Its the EXCEPTION that humans can interbreed in Lusternia. Not the rule. The races are not similar. They are very, very different. If they were the same biologically speaking, there would be no different bonuses and penalties. They'd all be pretty much identical.
Dvyrus2006-09-16 02:48:36
QUOTE(Fallen @ Sep 15 2006, 08:33 PM) 331807
I hate when people refuse to use logic.
Now, logic dictates that if all races could interbreed, that there would be no reason to point out that humans could. Especially in such a way as "proved to be a most fertile people", which indicates something at least slightly out of the ordinary.
Maybe it means humans have no standards?
Seriously, it makes sense that most every couple has sex. That does not mean you have to act it out, you don't rp out going to the bathroom, for instance.
Shiri2006-09-16 02:58:05
He's already said that it doesn't have to be acted out.
I still disagree even with that caveat, though. I get to decide my personality.
I still disagree even with that caveat, though. I get to decide my personality.
Verithrax2006-09-16 03:01:10
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It's celibate, geniuses.
Ugh. That's the stupid sort of comment. Really.
So, in the real world, because Lions and Tigers can breed, does that mean Humans and Chimps can? Or Humans and Donkeys? No.
And there's proof about the humans and donkey's - go to Mexico, go into the right bar, and you can see a live show. But i'm betting it will never produce a Half-Donkey Half-Human
Its the EXCEPTION that humans can interbreed in Lusternia. Not the rule. The races are not similar. They are very, very different. If they were the same biologically speaking, there would be no different bonuses and penalties. They'd all be pretty much identical.
You fail at biology. Asses and horses can breed, as can zebras and horses and lions and tigers because they have:
1) Enough genetic familiarity for a hybrid to be viable, and
2) The same amount of cromossome pairs.
The resulting child, however, is a hybrid and is sterile.
However, Lusternia obviously doesn't stick to real-life biology. (Can you burn people with your mind? I thought not). It's perfectly acceptable to believe that races which are close enough in size are able to produce children together, which would be fertile. Particularly, if you take it that each child born has a shard, and that the shard must forcibly belong to one particular race, then the fact that hybrids belong to one race or another isn't so strange; the shard influences the development. Furthermore, what is so special about humans and viscanti that lets them interbreed? Hell, we know of an entire race that is the result of hybridism between mortals and extra-planar half-formed entities (Faelings, that is).
It's celibate, geniuses.
QUOTE(Fallen @ Sep 15 2006, 10:55 PM) 331821
Ugh. That's the stupid sort of comment. Really.
So, in the real world, because Lions and Tigers can breed, does that mean Humans and Chimps can? Or Humans and Donkeys? No.
And there's proof about the humans and donkey's - go to Mexico, go into the right bar, and you can see a live show. But i'm betting it will never produce a Half-Donkey Half-Human
Its the EXCEPTION that humans can interbreed in Lusternia. Not the rule. The races are not similar. They are very, very different. If they were the same biologically speaking, there would be no different bonuses and penalties. They'd all be pretty much identical.
You fail at biology. Asses and horses can breed, as can zebras and horses and lions and tigers because they have:
1) Enough genetic familiarity for a hybrid to be viable, and
2) The same amount of cromossome pairs.
The resulting child, however, is a hybrid and is sterile.
However, Lusternia obviously doesn't stick to real-life biology. (Can you burn people with your mind? I thought not). It's perfectly acceptable to believe that races which are close enough in size are able to produce children together, which would be fertile. Particularly, if you take it that each child born has a shard, and that the shard must forcibly belong to one particular race, then the fact that hybrids belong to one race or another isn't so strange; the shard influences the development. Furthermore, what is so special about humans and viscanti that lets them interbreed? Hell, we know of an entire race that is the result of hybridism between mortals and extra-planar half-formed entities (Faelings, that is).
Unknown2006-09-16 03:03:44
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Sep 15 2006, 08:01 PM) 331833
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It's celibate, geniuses.
I knew I was mis-spelling it!
Unknown2006-09-16 03:04:11
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Sep 15 2006, 10:01 PM) 331833
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It's celibate, geniuses.
Everiine2006-09-16 03:05:25
QUOTE(Fallen @ Sep 15 2006, 09:55 PM) 331821
Ugh. That's the stupid sort of comment. Really.
So, in the real world, because Lions and Tigers can breed, does that mean Humans and Chimps can? Or Humans and Donkeys? No.
You're right. But we have scientific evidence and clearly stated fact that it is impossible.
QUOTE
And there's proof about the humans and donkey's - go to Mexico, go into the right bar, and you can see a live show. But i'm betting it will never produce a Half-Donkey Half-Human
You're right. Same reason as above, we know and have absolute proof that it can't work.
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Its the EXCEPTION that humans can interbreed in Lusternia. Not the rule. The races are not similar. They are very, very different. If they were the same biologically speaking, there would be no different bonuses and penalties. They'd all be pretty much identical.
Dogs are very different IRL, vastly different in size, shape, appearance, yet they can still interbreed. I know you'll argue that their all biologically similar, but in relation to bonuses and penalties, those apply to the dog analogy.
This is one of those things that will never be resolved.
EDIT: And why the heck aren't the quote tags working?
Verithrax2006-09-16 03:07:26
QUOTE(Corinthian @ Sep 16 2006, 12:04 AM) 331836
It's spelling, genius.
Unknown2006-09-16 03:21:13
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Sep 15 2006, 10:07 PM) 331839
It's spelling, genius.
I was being sarcastic
Ista2006-09-16 04:13:53
QUOTE(Fallen @ Sep 15 2006, 07:23 PM) 331796
Given the fact that if there was a culture like that, it'd have died out very very very very very very quickly.. you know.. sex is kind of mandatory for said culture to last longer than a century or so. Most cultures in history have been more sexually indulgent than our current one, not less.
There are still cultures that could have positions in their social structure that has a man who marries, but is not allowed to have sexual relationships with his wife. I'm not saying every single person would do it.
Genos2006-09-16 05:10:21
QUOTE(Everiine @ Sep 15 2006, 11:05 PM) 331838
EDIT: And why the heck aren't the quote tags working?
You added an extra end quote bracket after this sentence.
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You're right. Same reason as above, we know and have absolute proof that it can't work.