seems logical and fair

I wish I could be there. I have things to say. This affects me a lot.

I can't be.

Aah - HAH. Missunderstanding then.

I hope the reason is an OOC one, and not related to what happened in game. If not..You and Xenthos should be there.

Yeah. I can't stay up that late and hope to function at work tomorrow morning.

I really wanted a chance to speak up...Too late for me on a school night. Not really acceptable for the teacher to be falling asleep at her desk.

Shayle, maybe you should give someone, that you know will do it, a list of your thoughts so they can bring them up for you. Not as good as being there, but at least then your concerns will be brought up.

This is the root of your problem. Give one good reason why you have to be a part of whatever change takes place? There isn't one. There is no reason that you can't step back for even just a month and see if Glomdoring can turn itself around. None. Not one. The only reason you have to be a part of it is because of the title of Administrator... and that means jack and is horrible justification. If you can't let go of your power for even that long, you're not going to fix anything.

If Glomdoring is already "ruined", then what is the harm of letting it go a month without a pesky divine intervention? You could always step in if things got worse.. but you're just refusing to give them the oppurtunity to make things better. And that's just really sad.

Heh, well, we must agree to disagree. I doubt anything I can say will change your mind and certainly the hostility and tone of your post isn't changing mine. You really are your own worst enemy in this instance.

There is one BIG problem with havinign a commune that is too small.

You need people to be able to replace people who end up leaving for one reason or another, and you can't expect everybody to be logged in 24/7 to do thier jobs.

I'm extremely dissappointed in Estarra and the other admins involved for this entire situation.

How hard is it to say to the leaders of Glomdoring OOCly in a message, "Look, there is a problem, and we are going to talk about it," or something of the sort? Those policies that you have a problem with, the pervious Viravain wrote, not the players. Those attitudes you are bothered by and that you think are driving players away, the previous Viravain set in place. Why jump to the conclusion that the current playerbase won't be amicible to change just because they are sticking with the way they were told to do things in the past?

I'm sorry if some of this was brought up before, but I'm just... astounded by all this. If I needed a reason to quit playing Lusternia to put more time into my thesis, this would be it.

I have a sinking feeling that the vocal minority that is so keen on a neutral org will turn Glomdoring into just that, completely destroying the org's story. Glomdoring's story is, after all, why I'm still playing Lusternia and what really drew me into the game. As this is not the first time the admin have made such sudden and heavyhanded decisions, I'd leave since it bothers me so much, but there's nowhere to go. Achaea is too OOC for my tastes, Imperian is too elitist for my tastes, and I'm not a fan of dark, gothic atmospheres.

I'm beginning to think one of the reasons we're having so much trouble getting new players is that the current playerbase is so unhappy with the game, the new players get the impression the game isn't worth playing and leave.

And you're yours, to be honest. This administration seems to take the route of "Extreme is best!" when the entire player base screams that it isn't. I can't remember the last time you guys took baby steps towards resolving an issue. And this is just another round of the usual. Sure, i might not be swaying you, but that's not something that's going to keep me awake at night. There's a reason that all of your attempts to incease Lusternia's playerbase have never really worked. It just doesn't seem like you're actually learning anything from past examples. So, forgive me if I have no faith in this helping anything at all... but with this administration's track record of heavy-handed, backfired, or just plain ineffectual attempts to "fix" things, I don't think I can really be blamed.

Ummm, changes in the past have been done ICly... Its much more fun when a change happens with IC communication isntead of OOC communication. shikari shook up quite a few things when he came, specially in the Ebonguard, and it was done in a complete IC tone.


I would be more upset if they started the OOC route instead of starting with the IC route.

Suddenly forcing an org to do what an admin wants in order to help them retain players, when the main reason they lost them in the first places was because of admins forcing their org to do what the admins wanted....

See the problem here?

we have had over 70... when lusternia was down.

32, or something. First time Lusternia went down.

No hijacking!

Except that the IC route was horribly planned. The Shadow Court acted in a completely logical way.. and yet none of the Admin saw it coming? It really just shows why the administration usually fails at "fixing" things.. because they really don't know the orgs that they're dealing with. And that is why them forcing themselves to be a part of it usually ends badly.

BIG problem.. not all admin are created equal.

Some admin want things to change because of OOC realities of a lack of playerbase, while previous "admin" wanted things done because of IC philosophy and Roleplay....

they are not connected.

I mentioned the "event" to an OOC friend of mine who had never played Lusternia, and her response was, "Wait a minute, the head admin didn't create a character in the organization and see how things were? She just assumed it was newbie-hostile and that it was all the players' fault they weren't retaining people? How dumb is that? No wonder your game has such a small playerbase!"

Because when we tried that we got responses that Glomdoring's RP will be ruined and that quality will be sacrificed for quality. In other words, we aren't jumping to conclusions, we are responding to what has happened.

Anyway, I admit that things have fallen out because of how players were told to do things. There's no question of that. That's what the heck I'm apologizing for! I don't blame players at all.