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by Diamante

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Geb2006-09-27 23:15:06
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Sep 27 2006, 08:41 PM) 336162

Hmm, Narcolepsy would be good, but what about stacking it with daydreams or epilepsy? And how does amnesia stack with choke/aeon/sap effects? Does amensia prevent the command from happening at all, or does it delay first, then do nothing? If so, amnesia would be really good in choke/aeon....


Amnesia stops the action from happening at all. So it is possible to quickly input two commands to get around it and aeon. That is the method people used to get around slowlocks (which is nothing but a concussion +aeon. It is still hell to deal with, and so slowlocks were very effective in hindering people's healing.
Unknown2006-09-28 03:51:37
QUOTE(geb @ Sep 27 2006, 01:15 PM) 336223

Amnesia stops the action from happening at all. So it is possible to quickly input two commands to get around it and aeon. That is the method people used to get around slowlocks (which is nothing but a concussion +aeon. It is still hell to deal with, and so slowlocks were very effective in hindering people's healing.


Amnesia is different here. It doesn't blank the next command, as you can diagnose sometimes and see it. Instead it will randomly blank a command somewhere down the line, not immediately.
Unknown2006-09-28 06:57:12
QUOTE(Corinthian @ Sep 27 2006, 02:42 PM) 336137

Choke affects the caster too?
If it didn't it would have to be removed for being to overpowered. glare.gif It's quite nasty at the moment anyway, and it also lends itself to helping succumb, as you need to cure it, and curing is slowed... don't cure it? bye bye! I'm not surprised at any rate, anyone who isn't an avid system junkie is going to be seriously disabled in choke(aka, all of those people you went up against when you were raiding)

Anywho, is there any way to get away from choke+brumtower? Other then divine intervention or death I mean.
Diamante2006-09-28 07:21:26
walk, tumble, flow, gust yourself, leap, sprint, tackle ?
Geb2006-09-28 11:40:00
QUOTE(Anonymous @ Sep 28 2006, 04:51 AM) 336281

Amnesia is different here. It doesn't blank the next command, as you can diagnose sometimes and see it. Instead it will randomly blank a command somewhere down the line, not immediately.


True, I forgot about the difference. With that difference, amnesia is actually weaker here when combined with aeon. Unless concussions allow for the old style amnesia, I would argue that concussions here in Lust are a good bit weaker than those in other realms too.
Unknown2006-09-28 11:56:02
QUOTE(geb @ Sep 28 2006, 01:40 AM) 336331

True, I forgot about the difference. With that difference, amnesia is actually weaker here when combined with aeon. Unless concussions allow for the old style amnesia, I would argue that concussions here in Lust are a good bit weaker than those in other realms too.


I should envoy that amnesia not fire on emotes. It's so goddamn annoying when people spam stupid things like jump because they believe it protects them from amnesia. angry.gif

At least spam something your opponent can't see if you want to proc amnesia/stupidity patterns/check for aeon. It doesn't look quite as stupid or out of character entirely.
Geb2006-09-28 12:10:09
QUOTE(Anonymous @ Sep 28 2006, 12:56 PM) 336336

I should envoy that amnesia not fire on emotes. It's so goddamn annoying when people spam stupid things like jump because they believe it protects them from amnesia. angry.gif

At least spam something your opponent can't see if you want to proc amnesia/stupidity patterns/check for aeon. It doesn't look quite as stupid or out of character entirely.


You have it wrong. Most people use jump for another reason. It is as simple as pie to use say or compose for the old style amnesia.

Oh, and you do know it is easy to gag another's action that you do not desire to see? It is not like you need to know when the person jumps or not. I have it gagged, and it does not bother me at all. Just like I have fae gagged; those are far more spammy than a jump once in a while.
Sylphas2006-09-29 06:00:28
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Sep 28 2006, 02:57 AM) 336313
I'm not surprised at any rate, anyone who isn't an avid system junkie is going to be seriously disabled in choke


Don't most people just turn their systems off in choke? It's a massive pain to code around, and you can manually well enough in choke if you have a clue and some aliases/macros.

Unknown2006-09-29 10:29:52
QUOTE(geb @ Sep 28 2006, 02:10 AM) 336338

You have it wrong. Most people use jump for another reason. It is as simple as pie to use say or compose for the old style amnesia.

Oh, and you do know it is easy to gag another's action that you do not desire to see? It is not like you need to know when the person jumps or not. I have it gagged, and it does not bother me at all. Just like I have fae gagged; those are far more spammy than a jump once in a while.


Of course it can be gagged. I have it gagged. But why should I have too? It's still OOC and retarded. I'm sorry, but if you don't see an issue with your character jumping up and down repeatedly spamming when they are supposed to be fighting for their life, there is no hope. It's just bad form and takes away from the immersion of Lusternia.
Unknown2006-09-29 10:39:49
QUOTE(Diamante @ Sep 28 2006, 03:21 AM) 336317

flow
One of those Shadowy skills prevents flowing. I've gotten the "you can't do that here because..." messages before.
Diamante2006-09-29 11:15:59
bonds, five power, not useful most the time
Geb2006-09-29 12:17:38
QUOTE(Anonymous @ Sep 29 2006, 11:29 AM) 336773

Of course it can be gagged. I have it gagged. But why should I have too? It's still OOC and retarded. I'm sorry, but if you don't see an issue with your character jumping up and down repeatedly spamming when they are supposed to be fighting for their life, there is no hope. It's just bad form and takes away from the immersion of Lusternia.


No, I do not see an issue with it at all. I know exactly when I jump and it is not repeatedly. Also, since you do have it gagged your immersion is not bothered at all, since you don't see it at all. It being OOC and retarded is a matter of opinion. Unfortunately for you, your opinion is no more important than anyone else’s, and matters very little to me on this subject.
Narsrim2006-09-29 17:05:39
jump
You are paralysed and unable to do that.
7302h, 6748m, 6637e, 10p, 28240w esSixkp<>-

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I find this quite intelligent.

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And what about those people who do nothing but tumble (like Laysus or Athana)? How is jumping "retarded" but a display of tumbling good enough to qualify for the Olympics legit?
Ashteru2006-09-29 17:40:47
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Sep 29 2006, 05:05 PM) 336862

jump
You are paralysed and unable to do that.
7302h, 6748m, 6637e, 10p, 28240w esSixkp<>-

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I find this quite intelligent.

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And what about those people who do nothing but tumble (like Laysus or Athana)? How is jumping "retarded" but a display of tumbling good enough to qualify for the Olympics legit?

I am sorry, but you are comparing using an emote to see if you are afflicted to getting away? Or are they tumbling to see if they are afflicted? Otherwise, I don't see a reason why you would bring that up.
Unknown2006-09-29 18:18:28
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Sep 29 2006, 07:05 AM) 336862

jump
You are paralysed and unable to do that.
7302h, 6748m, 6637e, 10p, 28240w esSixkp<>-

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I find this quite intelligent.

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And what about those people who do nothing but tumble (like Laysus or Athana)? How is jumping "retarded" but a display of tumbling good enough to qualify for the Olympics legit?


Yes, and you can save us all the annoyance of looking at it by using STAND instead. Accomplishes the same thing without using a room emote.
Geb2006-09-30 07:10:20
QUOTE(Anonymous @ Sep 29 2006, 07:18 PM) 336883

Yes, and you can save us all the annoyance of looking at it by using STAND instead. Accomplishes the same thing without using a room emote.


You can also take responsibility for your own annoyances and gag them. You should not expect people to accommodate you, when a simple action on your own can negate the problem. Or do you feel it is easier for you to try to control others, instead of trying to control your own reaction to others?

I will be frank with you, I am not going to change a thing. It would take me far more time to change everything, than it does for you to copy, paste, and gag the line. So unless you get the admin to tell me that I have to stop doing it, you will just have to be bothered by the fact that I am doing it and you had to perform the heinous action of gagging it.
Unknown2006-09-30 07:34:50
blink.gif We've got some major hostility going on here...

Though in all honestly, if someone is spaming a room emote they can't expect the whole rest of the mud to have it gagged...

Should I gag the "so and so has tried to preform an aggressive action on you" when people spam me with that?
Geb2006-09-30 07:56:13
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Sep 30 2006, 08:34 AM) 337084

blink.gif We've got some major hostility going on here...

Though in all honestly, if someone is spaming a room emote they can't expect the whole rest of the mud to have it gagged...

Should I gag the "so and so has tried to preform an aggressive action on you" when people spam me with that?


Though in all honesty, it is not being spammed. It is being used under particular circumstances, and those circumstances are not continuous.

I invite him to show some log of it demonstrating how he is being spammed so much. We can duel somewhere and then he can post the duel up on the boards to prove or disprove his point.

edited by me.
Laysus2006-09-30 13:08:08
QUOTE(Diamante @ Sep 27 2006, 01:58 PM) 336046
(Bellator Societas): Lisarel says, "Uh .... unless its Laysus, Tuek or some of the other fighters, they will wait."



what's that about? tongue.gif
Unknown2006-09-30 14:28:29
QUOTE(Anonymous @ Sep 29 2006, 07:18 PM) 336883

Yes, and you can save us all the annoyance of looking at it by using STAND instead. Accomplishes the same thing without using a room emote.

No no, let him keep jumping! Who needs faeriefire when your opponent jumps everytime he's writhed free? It's also a great way of telling when he's cleared paralysis!