Suspect status should not be given for a vitae death.

Discuss.

Bad idea.

Next topic.

I concur

Actually, I wouldn't mind if it was changed so that you are brought back to your nexus if you vitae.

I don't like that. Cause mostly when I die and vitae, it's cause some critter I'm hunting has killed me. Getting shunted to my nexus would mean I'd loose whatever I'd dropped - all the critter's I'd killed up to that point and all the gold they'd get me or essence for Lyreth or essence for the Pool and so on.

However, in the rare cases someone ganks you while you bash, you don't want to vitae with them being able to attack you right again.

I'm assuming you mean off prime? Well, anyway, I'd rather put up with the very rarely occuring double death (I've only been double killed one time ever that way, by Ixion when he was raiding Water and I hadn't been hunting then at all) myself than have the much more common happening of dying to my potential prey and losing all the work I'd done for however long I'd been hunting.

..Shamarah is talking about removing suspect on prime. So, he could attack you right again after you vitae.

And see? And this is why paying attention is important. I totally thought you were just making a different suggested change to the way death and vitae work.

But, um... yeah. I still don't like it.

That's why it should just keep giving suspect.

I agree!

Lies.

Before I join these two in shutting you down and calling you a filthy griefer (hmm, well maybe they didn't do that, but they were thinking it!! ), do you have any justification or reasoning for wanting a change like that?

Because I'm a filthy griefer.

I Shammy

Zamarah likez ze killing.

I don't think Zamarah does. She's kinda... young.

Shamarah, you totally just stole my idea!! I'm sure it's been brought up before though...

Anyways, I wholeheartedly agree. Vitae + Avenger system leads to lame non-attempts to even run/fight back. This game is about conflict, with tangible losses if you die. Not this crappy suspect protection after vitae'ing that's become so popular.

Though I must say that "No suspect on vitae deaths" isn't the way to do it, like I had mentioned, it should only happen if someone prays. Otherwise, Celestians will still be able to abuse suspect status because of resurrection/sacrifice, even though the experience loss is similar to vitae deaths.

I agree with Ashteru that I think it's a bad idea. There's an easy way to kill people twice and only have them gain suspect (not avenger) on you, and many people still fall for that. Although exp loss from praying was (apprently) nerfed quite a bit already, I know there are players out there who are sensitive about getting jumped for no reason and losing several hours worth of exp (not everyone's a fast leveler).

To my knowledge, you do not gain suspect for attacking people in your own territories anyway (ie when you're defending) so I don't quite see the problem with it. Care to elaborate, Shamarah?

Another idea: Make that if every org gets a targetable soulrezz.