Suspect + Vitae

by Shamarah

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Ixion2006-09-28 22:59:32
QUOTE(Cuber @ Sep 28 2006, 06:51 PM) 336535

Here:
I agree, it wasn't a mistake I'd make if I were non-angry and non-tired. But who you are to blame - after all, we know that not being a primary english speaker makes you a retard, and it's a reason to laugh at others - ICly and OOCly. Right? Thought so. Like you too.


laugh.gif The topic there was me not sticking around to fight six of you at the time, not some organization or whatnot.
Unknown2006-09-28 23:02:40
QUOTE(Ixion @ Sep 29 2006, 12:59 AM) 336540

laugh.gif The topic there was me not sticking around to fight six of you at the time, not some organization or whatnot.

No, the topic is that first you insulted me ICly for mistaking two very similiar words in a non-prime language, then insulted me OOCly by posting this on the Funnies and adding comments (well, mainly rofl emoticons).

I expect the reply in Polish. Okay, I'm feeling nice today - German. I'll point out and laugh at every grammar or lexical mistake.
Vix2006-09-28 23:02:45
Correct me if I'm wrong, but only Hraddon's been shrugging to death because of vitae. You seriously want to ruin vitae for everyone just because he flouted the spirit of dying?
Shamarah2006-09-28 23:05:23
I love how there's actually a serious discussion on a thread that I posted mainly just as a joke and opportunity to troll with owls.
Geb2006-09-28 23:05:24
QUOTE(Cuber @ Sep 28 2006, 11:25 PM) 336509

My point exactly. If we make every bashing spot enemyable, then people who'll just want some XP will be jump-able all the time. That's so much griefing that it'd turn 90% people away, almost immediately. Only ones who'd stay are total pacifists who even didn't bash in the first place, rabid PKers who think this is some kind of a God Wars game, and those who are so stubborn that they'd never leave even if Estarra turned into a tentacle monster and... ahem, used them up.

EDIT to Geb's post: the issue with enemy status isn't that mobs gang up on you. The issue is that you're not protected while on enemy territory.


I know what the issue is. I am pointing out that sentient mobs need to act intelligent. Right now, the sentient mobs act stupidly towards people who are attacking them and their people. They just sit there and watch. Then does some dumb emote like they are sizing up your threat to them. Well, heck yes you are a threat, you just killed his brother or sister.

I do not believe Vitae should be changed, but I do believe that people should have to worry when they are off killing sentient beings on the prime. So yes, if you are in an area killing people that another person may be a part of by race or friendship, then you should expect that the person would seek to stop you. You should also understand it if the Avenger is not going to protect you from the person, since there you are killing intelligent people yourself. You want Avenger protection, then don't kill other sentient beings. That would make perfect role-play sense to me.

Oh and I agree that finks and gnomes should not enemy. Novice hunting grounds are normally free of any of those types of hindrances.
Unknown2006-09-28 23:06:33
very rare? Where in the world did that come from? Your way off base with that comment.

Practically all of Celest has status on loyen because she does that EVERY time. This is ridiculous-she'll vitae and laugh and keep on bashing. Hraddon has done it, but he's already been pointed out once, so no more about him. Luciden does it, nizes does it-it happens over and over and over and over again. It happens with Aslarans too
Unknown2006-09-28 23:08:47
From my RP point of view (I know it may sound kinda sketchy, but it is not for me), most of these non-aggresive NPCs like Krokani are actually pretty aggresive. They attack you first RP-wise, and don't do that mechanically-wise because that'd make exping too difficult.

Yeah, I know it doesn't explain things like the cook, Kar'chen or Surtami, who are surprisingly non-aggresive. But whatever.

EDIT: Talkan, you're a griefer, so I'm not surprised that these events appear often from your POV. I'm sure you'd just LOVE to see these people pray, don't you?
Shayle2006-09-28 23:10:47
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Sep 28 2006, 07:05 PM) 336544

I love how there's actually a serious discussion on a thread that I posted mainly just as a joke and opportunity to troll with owls.


Dirty forum griefer. closedeyes.gif
Unknown2006-09-28 23:14:20
Cuber, I'm pretty sure you need to lay off of personal attacks, for one.

For two, you have no idea what your talking about. I've NEVER made sure that someone prayed. I've NEVER taken more people to kill someone after I killed them to get them to pray. I've NEVER killed someone who didn't deserve it.

So what part of that exactly makes me a griefer? You, actually have caused me more grief for some of the idiotic things you've said on these forums than I've EVER caused anyone in the game.

You have no idea what you are talking about, because if you get killed in a fight-you suicide. So, please-stick to what your good at and delete your account
Unknown2006-09-28 23:19:14
The reason why players 'abuse' this is because

1) Probably to have a 30 IG month of grief free?
2) Like #1, they could bash without fear of them again
3) They don't want to pray even though they made a change you'll lose less while praying

I and probably what other players wanted is to try to get credits the hard way, wanted to try and even those who buy credits without buying them OOCly. Besides, the downside is that you have to buy credits despite the price if you're desperate (like me), you can't get credits if people won't sell them, and it'll day days (or months and years) to get to Geb/Amaru/Narsrim/Ixion's level if you do this.

If this is against RP, shouldn't I be losing RP points and be shown in my honours NOT an extremely credible character?
Unknown2006-09-28 23:24:23
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Sep 28 2006, 04:05 PM) 336544
I love how there's actually a serious discussion on a thread that I posted mainly just as a joke and opportunity to troll with owls.

Its a touchy subject, I guess. closedeyes.gif
Unknown2006-09-28 23:24:45
that's a good point Lightzout-bug it.

And your guild and city sell credits right? you can buy those for really cheap. And, I don't know if they do it anymore, but doesn't Magnagora give small amounts of credits for rewards for certain things?

I think Ekard may have said he bought almost all of his credits IC-granted he had the old style astral, but still!
Unknown2006-09-28 23:41:35
True, though if it really is a bug why don't you guys do it? mellow.gif

The things I've named it bug so far is how Currents manages to hit people even ghosted, soul or dreamform. Another thing is that when I heard Narsrim 'abusing' the gate to Shallach by killing Krangar, open the gate, get down, close it from the other side then magelock it thus hindering us Magnagorians to get to the catacombs.

And oh, probably might bug it another thing too since Narsrim is able to get inside the Catacombs through snorting with monolith sigils all around, either way, all rumors yet and I have to do some research before I can officialy call this

busted.gif
Unknown2006-09-28 23:45:08
um....narsrim uses a rift. We all do. If that's a bug-then please, bug away!
Vix2006-09-28 23:45:21
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Sep 28 2006, 06:05 PM) 336544

I love how there's actually a serious discussion on a thread that I posted mainly just as a joke and opportunity to troll with owls.

IPB Image
Whoo, avatar!

And I don't think docking someone's RP counts as a "bug." Probably too late after the fact to dock Hraddon's anyways, and he knows not to do that again. Right? smile.gif
Unknown2006-09-28 23:46:35
yeah, way too late to worry about the things that have happened before, but it'd be nice if he does it again.

And lets HOPE he won't do it again now that he knows, but I have little faith
Unknown2006-09-28 23:46:56
QUOTE(talkans @ Sep 29 2006, 07:45 AM) 336570

um....narsrim uses a rift. We all do. If that's a bug-then please, bug away!


if it is a rift then how did he enter when

1) we made sure all other rifts connected to Celest is destroyed
2) ask for someone to even guard Krangar that time and still manages to enter

either way, I think I'll stop now since I only heard this from people, didn't manage to see it myself mellow.gif
Nementh2006-09-28 23:49:16
Talkan, you seriously need to shush... you are one of the abusers of the Vitae death suspect thing to, so...
Unknown2006-09-28 23:50:45
QUOTE(Nementh @ Sep 28 2006, 07:49 PM) 336574

Talkan, you seriously need to shush... you are one of the abusers of the Vitae death suspect thing to, so...



oh please, Talkan's never abused this. He don't even bash areas that are protected by people. You don't even have suspect on Talkan nementh! So what are you talking about??
Xenthos2006-09-28 23:51:01
Spores are only blocked if there's a monolith on YOUR end, not on the target end. Or are you forgetting that people make spores to their nexus and just return there at will?