Ildaudid2006-10-23 01:03:19
Bards and artisians are destroying the wood economy, getting a hold of wood right now is harder than obtaining demi-god, or at least it is how it feels....
I could go into Seren or Glom any given day and gather close to 600 wood with no problems, now it is hard to find 50 total throughout the whole basin.....
I think at least in Magnagora, the city will have to decide if they would rather have their planes defended or a great overstock of bardic instruments being made....
As it stands now I will have to remove traps to even gather wood to make traps, and you don't get comms back from other peoples traps, only some from your own....
I could go into Seren or Glom any given day and gather close to 600 wood with no problems, now it is hard to find 50 total throughout the whole basin.....
I think at least in Magnagora, the city will have to decide if they would rather have their planes defended or a great overstock of bardic instruments being made....
As it stands now I will have to remove traps to even gather wood to make traps, and you don't get comms back from other peoples traps, only some from your own....
Diamondais2006-10-23 01:06:06
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Oct 22 2006, 09:03 PM) 345425
Bards and artisians are destroying the wood economy, getting a hold of wood right now is harder than obtaining demi-god, or at least it is how it feels....
I could go into Seren or Glom any given day and gather close to 600 wood with no problems, now it is hard to find 50 total throughout the whole basin.....
I think at least in Magnagora, the city will have to decide if they would rather have their planes defended or a great overstock of bardic instruments being made....
As it stands now I will have to remove traps to even gather wood to make traps, and you don't get comms back from other peoples traps, only some from your own....
Theres actually an IG way to deal with it, may not be highly liked but meh. Bargin with Glomdoring for raw lumber, or find a way to grow saplings with a druids help (Fae dont really like this alternative I remember).
Vix2006-10-23 01:23:30
Ooh, a small set of handbells might be nice.
Ildaudid2006-10-23 01:27:11
QUOTE(diamondais @ Oct 22 2006, 09:06 PM) 345426
Theres actually an IG way to deal with it, may not be highly liked but meh. Bargin with Glomdoring for raw lumber, or find a way to grow saplings with a druids help (Fae dont really like this alternative I remember).
The problem is this, if I go through the trouble of doing either of those things, which I have no problem what so ever doing. I will have to turn in the lumber to lets say ankrag for processing, which means the city gets more wood.
Well here is where I will run into the problem, as soon as I go through all that effort, and make more wood for the city.... someone will buy it all... and I have just spent all my time helping someone else make instruments for bards that don't even exist yet
This will put my character into a homicidal frenzy, he would end up reading the help trades scrolls, and killing every artisian he finds there, then will start asking on market for an artisian and murder all that answer... We don't want an Artisian - Hunter/Tracker war to start
Kharaen2006-10-23 02:14:36
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Oct 22 2006, 09:03 PM) 345425
Bards and artisians are destroying the wood economy, getting a hold of wood right now is harder than obtaining demi-god, or at least it is how it feels....
I could go into Seren or Glom any given day and gather close to 600 wood with no problems, now it is hard to find 50 total throughout the whole basin.....
I think at least in Magnagora, the city will have to decide if they would rather have their planes defended or a great overstock of bardic instruments being made....
As it stands now I will have to remove traps to even gather wood to make traps, and you don't get comms back from other peoples traps, only some from your own....
I haven't been able to get wood in...almost a year IG. I'm an Artisan. Most of the time, I have people give me comms and I make the instrument since I can't find the wood myself to conduct my trade. People have been wanting furniture made, and I haven't been able to provide it cause people are buying out all the wood everywhere.
I'd like it, really like it, if people STOPPED BUYING OUT THE WOOD COMMS. AT LEAST LEAVE 5, YOU GREEDY !!!
Stop raising what used to cost 37-90 gold to 135-175 gold.
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Oct 22 2006, 09:27 PM) 345433
This will put my character into a homicidal frenzy, he would end up reading the help trades scrolls, and killing every artisian he finds there, then will start asking on market for an artisian and murder all that answer... We don't want an Artisian - Hunter/Tracker war to start
You make me wish you hadn't gotten that lyre, you don't deserve it
Sylphas2006-10-23 12:19:52
How can you use the fact that you need to sit down to play a harp as a reason for not having them, yet allow people to play their instruments with one hand? It's much easier to use a harp while standing than it is to play a violin with one hand.
Gwylifar2006-10-23 13:21:12
Anyway, there are harps that can be carried, usually resting on a shoulder. That's how they started.
Estarra2006-10-23 15:15:45
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Oct 23 2006, 05:19 AM) 345583
How can you use the fact that you need to sit down to play a harp as a reason for not having them, yet allow people to play their instruments with one hand? It's much easier to use a harp while standing than it is to play a violin with one hand.
Oops, I'll make instruments two handed. Sorry!
Sylphas2006-10-23 15:18:02
Oh hell, now the bards are going to kill me. You can't parry with an instrument.
Ildaudid2006-10-23 15:47:59
QUOTE(Kharaen d'Attai @ Oct 22 2006, 10:14 PM) 345444
Stop raising what used to cost 37-90 gold to 135-175 gold.
You make me wish you hadn't gotten that lyre, you don't deserve it
The lyre wasn't for me silly, I didn't get one... it was for my momma!! I wanted her to have the coolest damn bardic instrument in the game... and she got it... But she found it before I could find one to give to her as present for all the nights I kept her up late worrying about me
And yes she deserved it, she did of course have to deal with me as a kid and lest we forget, Pops!! Who I am sure can be a handful
Verithrax2006-10-23 18:02:50
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Oct 23 2006, 01:18 PM) 345610
Oh hell, now the bards are going to kill me. You can't parry with an instrument.
You can attach a shield rune to it.
And yes, Gwylifar is right, there are harps you can carry around, and lyres are NOT in any way the same as a harp.
Sylphas2006-10-23 18:07:15
True, but with it one-handed, you can just buy a shield, which is much, much cheaper.
Not that I think they shoudl be one-handed, I just think they should count for weaponparry.
Not that I think they shoudl be one-handed, I just think they should count for weaponparry.
Veonira2006-10-23 18:13:22
I think that having a recorder should be an option.
Noola2006-10-23 18:16:48
The Triangle!
Unknown2006-10-23 18:19:30
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Oct 22 2006, 09:03 PM) 345425
I could go into Seren or Glom any given day and gather close to 600 wood with no problems, now it is hard to find 50 total throughout the whole basin.....
Ildaudid2006-10-23 19:21:41
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Oct 23 2006, 02:19 PM) 345707
Seren (hartstone actually) already harvests all of our trees and sells them to our villages for peak lumber production + peak sapling/mature tree protection/growth rates, harvesting in the seren might get you some immediately, but it'll just hurt overall production.
I mean buying it from your comm shop not stealing trees, Nejii wouldn't like it if I chopped down yer trees without permission
Verithrax2006-10-23 21:21:25
By the way, my instrument is still one-handed...
Are we going to have overpowered one-handed 'prenerf' instruments?
Are we going to have overpowered one-handed 'prenerf' instruments?
Ashteru2006-10-23 21:23:10
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Oct 23 2006, 07:21 PM) 345722
I mean buying it from your comm shop not stealing trees, Nejii wouldn't like it if I chopped down yer trees without permission
You just wait. I'll get you wood to good prices.
Unknown2006-10-23 21:30:23
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Oct 23 2006, 03:21 PM) 345722
I mean buying it from your comm shop not stealing trees, Nejii wouldn't like it if I chopped down yer trees without permission
Anarias2006-10-23 21:48:22
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Oct 23 2006, 03:30 PM) 345804
Oh, that's different, others might get flustered if someone buys out all our commodities, I don't. I know Astrasia keeps a small emergency supply for official commune use(expansion projects and so on), so it's not like anyone is even hurt by it.
Doesn't quite work like that. If we're dipping into reserves then we're being hurt by it. Life-threateningly hurt? No. Hurt nonetheless? Yes.