Too many murmurs in the dark about!

My warrior alt spent 40,000 gold for the CHEAPEST pair of hammers he could find. On top of that, he paid 20,000 gold for the CHEAPEST field plate he could find. Remember, bards don't have to buy expensive armor - no 15,000 gold greatrobes, no 20,000 gold plate mail. Just leather. I don't see this cost as any more than other guilds pay, in fact, it almost seems to be much less.


Glad to hear both points

Nobody is going to wear leather.

Nobody, ever.

And I don't want to see bards in robes. I want different great robe patterns, dammit.

Question about some of the changes this might bring.

1) Will bards have any effect on the culture mechanic? I could see them having the potential to affect the culture score, not just libraries. Maybe by doing performances--plays or sonnets. Or by publishing special songbooks in the library system.

2) Will bards enhance or have enhancement to influencing. I could see bardic music being important to influencing attempts.

3) Will non-bards be able to play instruments? Perhaps with a high-level ability in the arts or dramatics skill? At least give Richter hope of playing his violin!

4) Can we have a sing emote, with line breaks possible? I really want to see that, and it makes great sense for bards to do that. As a related topic, can bards sing their created songs without invoking any of the effects?

Actually, bards can wear Greatrobes.. which helps since dodging doesn't work against denizens.

I suppose you could sing them without targetting anyone and without enemies in the room - Then it would just buff you and allies.

And I want a flute. I can totally alternate between singing and playing.

Maybe for culture this could be done.

* Cities and communes can buy theaters or performing arts centers.

* Once a year a live performance must be conducted. Those performances are judged similar to stories. Since we don't want the admin there forever, we have community contests to weed out the top 5 or 3 people. Additionally, the theaters can have room controls to shut up the audience or hide emotes.

* A small quest can have certain extra denziens in villages or on roads who want to be lead to a major city to attend the theater, similar to the scholar quests. Either that, or bards might have to come to those denziens and play in front of them!

We only get back metal comms, anything else is burnt away by the forge, and I am sure no bard instrument will cost 200 steel to make.

As for the song/effects thing, you don't have to imbue a power into a stanza to be able to sing the stanza.

Anarias heartily argues leather over greatrobes almost every time the subject is broached There's some crazy fanatics that prefer leather

He's elfen though, so that's no surprise really.

The only problem with the instrument decaying is that it loses all proficiency. So every four months or so, a player has to spend time getting the intrument back to 100%. Don't know just how large an effect proficiency has on an instrument or how long it takes to get to 100% though, so that may not be that big a deal.

She.

that would be AWESOME! and then make another skill in the same vein to turn the group into one big moshpit (stun, damage, etc)



Most notably in time spent making good weapons >.<

It takes ages. I've been using my lute almost non-stop for 2 days, and it's up to 23% aptitude.

Anyone mentioning Warrior costs is also assuming we should balance with that. I'd say we should actually make their costs lower, but I can't think of a way to do it without totally killing forging. It's a steep barrier to require so much gold of new players to make use of their skills.

can bards utilise the "brown note"?

That -would- be a hell of an affliction...

Celest already has a theatre. It's in the Hotel.

Mythbusters busted that one.

Everyone's talking about Bards in terms of combat potential and bashing. What about the art, the music, the culture!?? >.>