Unknown2006-10-12 14:39:02
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Oct 12 2006, 02:37 PM) 341975
In combat as a druid, Runes is easily 10x stronger than Ecology. Xavius proves this quite easily as you can follow up Sap with combinations like impatience/paralyse, stupidity/hypochondria, etc. Furthermore with a ger (impatience) rune fused into the demesne, the target is going to have to cure impatience -then- paralyse (which are passive) typically with stupidity/hypochondria on top of that.
I'm aware. I was replying to Sylphas. About style.
Ecology -is- dull, but its about 10x more interesting than Runes.
Edit: And even if its not as great combat-wise, I can't wait to have illusions.
Unknown2006-10-12 14:40:56
I think the point is that Runes is the most boring skill in existence, Nars. It doesn't look neat, it doesn't have flavour, it doesn't give you anything but afflictions for combat. Combat-wise, yeah, it's a better alternative for Druids than Ecology. And Ecology's a better alternative for Bards than Illusions, hands down.
I suspect Ecology's going to turn out all right once I finally get a chance to spar a little (roughly when the novice invasion ends). Tarot would be so nice though. Would also make being a plain-vanilla faeling good for something, which it really isn't right now.
I suspect Ecology's going to turn out all right once I finally get a chance to spar a little (roughly when the novice invasion ends). Tarot would be so nice though. Would also make being a plain-vanilla faeling good for something, which it really isn't right now.
Ialie2006-10-12 14:45:03
I think runes should be disassembled and changed into ARCHERY with the same effect! WOOT!
Sylphas2006-10-12 14:47:34
Mages would have archery, it'd be weird.
Ialie2006-10-12 14:48:03
Nuh uh, it be like celestians casting magick missle!
Sylphas2006-10-12 14:51:31
Ialie, do we really want Celestians attacking the darkness with magic missile?
Typhus2006-10-12 15:00:42
Heh, be glad we don't have rogues asking about how hot the women in the inns are... That would be disturbing...
Erm... We already _do_ have that... Nevermind, magic missile away!
Erm... We already _do_ have that... Nevermind, magic missile away!
Xavius2006-10-12 16:22:55
QUOTE(vale_kant @ Oct 12 2006, 09:40 AM) 341980
I think the point is that Runes is the most boring skill in existence, Nars. It doesn't look neat, it doesn't have flavour, it doesn't give you anything but afflictions for combat.
OUTRB ING;GIVE ING TO CUTIE
WINK
N;W;PORTAL ENTER
No flavor my foot.
EDIT: For those of you unfamiliar with the language of runes:
Ing Love will find those who lucky enough to find this rune. ( )
Rad Predicts a short, unexpected and perhaps unwelcome journey. (GTFO)
Cen Even strong minds can be inflicted with stupidity. (STFU)
Wynn Ah, often the lonely see this sad rune. (give to emo; alternatively, "Not interested.")
Tiwaz Justice will be met out to those under this rune. (I'll come for you later.)
Verithrax2006-10-12 16:45:58
Still sucks. There should be a skill to randomly outrb a rune. Or you can write a script to do it...
Xavius2006-10-12 16:48:39
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Oct 12 2006, 11:45 AM) 342037
Still sucks. There should be a skill to randomly outrb a rune. Or you can write a script to do it...
And ecology offers a lot more flash and flavor? Mine's adaptable! Besides, I don't want a random rune for my scrying. I want to predict your future, not let the game predict it.
Shorlen2006-10-12 18:52:55
QUOTE(Xavius @ Oct 12 2006, 12:22 PM) 342025
OUTRB ING;GIVE ING TO CUTIE
WINK
N;W;PORTAL ENTER
No flavor my foot.
WINK
N;W;PORTAL ENTER
No flavor my foot.
Ha! Shorlen does that with Daydream motes all the time
Unknown2006-10-13 02:38:09
QUOTE(vale_kant @ Oct 12 2006, 04:40 AM) 341980
I think the point is that Runes is the most boring skill in existence, Nars. It doesn't look neat, it doesn't have flavour, it doesn't give you anything but afflictions for combat. Combat-wise, yeah, it's a better alternative for Druids than Ecology. And Ecology's a better alternative for Bards than Illusions, hands down.
I suspect Ecology's going to turn out all right once I finally get a chance to spar a little (roughly when the novice invasion ends). Tarot would be so nice though. Would also make being a plain-vanilla faeling good for something, which it really isn't right now.
Not much different than Hexes.
And I'd say Healing is the most boring.
Also, I don't find Ecology boring. Beserkfetish is cheap, and spamming venom combos is fun, especially when Venomdrops will make it actually viable with the reduced shrugging.
Xavius2006-10-13 02:43:17
QUOTE(Anonymous @ Oct 12 2006, 09:38 PM) 342233
Also, I don't find Ecology boring. Beserkfetish is cheap, and spamming venom combos is fun, especially when Venomdrops will make it actually viable with the reduced shrugging.
Berserkfetish is barely viable with inept resilience.
Unknown2006-10-13 03:05:51
QUOTE(Xavius @ Oct 12 2006, 04:43 PM) 342235
Berserkfetish is barely viable with inept resilience.
Notice where I said Venomdrops?
Sylphas2006-10-13 03:22:58
And he's saying that unless VenomDrops can negate Trans Resilience completely, and then some, it still won't work.
Unknown2006-10-13 03:39:42
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Oct 12 2006, 05:22 PM) 342242
And he's saying that unless VenomDrops can negate Trans Resilience completely, and then some, it still won't work.
According to the AB file, it has a major impact. I'd say it -should- reduce it to 0 or very near 0 shrugging on someone with transcendent resilience. I assume it is close to that.
Sylphas2006-10-13 03:58:31
Oh, that'd be great then.
Unknown2006-10-13 04:34:51
91 sips of Morphite. Shrugged 30 times with transcendent resilience.
99 sips of Morphite. Shrugged 8 times with transcendent resilience and venomdrops active.
To clarify...
61 successful and 30 unsuccessful.
versus
91 successful and 8 unsuccessful.
Edit: Wrote that wrong, just realized it was in fact, 91 and 30 shrugs, and then 99 sips and 8 shrugs.
99 sips of Morphite. Shrugged 8 times with transcendent resilience and venomdrops active.
To clarify...
61 successful and 30 unsuccessful.
versus
91 successful and 8 unsuccessful.
Edit: Wrote that wrong, just realized it was in fact, 91 and 30 shrugs, and then 99 sips and 8 shrugs.
Unknown2006-10-13 07:21:42
I suddenly had a thought about the runes and instruments. I don't really want to be bashing any heads with an expensive instrument made of wood, and certainly not trying to use it to block axe swings.
Will instruments be counted as weapons for the purpose of the general weaponparry skill anyway though? Regardless of whether you have a rune or not?
As in, if I'm wielding my viola with no runes, will I sometimes parry with it?
Will instruments be counted as weapons for the purpose of the general weaponparry skill anyway though? Regardless of whether you have a rune or not?
As in, if I'm wielding my viola with no runes, will I sometimes parry with it?
Sylphas2006-10-13 11:39:41
Elryn, that's the coolest part of having an instrument--grabbing the neck of your mandolin and smashing them in the face with it to stun them!