Bards

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Athana2006-10-24 21:53:55
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Oct 24 2006, 02:31 PM) 346317

I'd love to see a Bard with the Absorption rune running around, to see how tanky they would be, with essentially a 48%-65% dodge rate.


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the dodging is really nice, wish it affected bashing though. I miss being tanky sad.gif
Shorlen2006-10-24 21:58:22
If bards are supposed to not wear greatobes when fighting, remember that your envoy can suggest new changes, such as a version of Splendor that is classed as leather armor instead of greatrobes, and is to leather what splendor robes are to greatrobes. The envoys exist for a reason.

Bards can make as much of a use of a tome as a wiccan/mage/guardian/druid, and more use of it than a warrior. The entire point of the tome is that you're giving up your shield to use it. It's a shield against non-Warriors. When I wield my shield against a mage, do I get any benefit from it? Nope.

Having to take lowmagic for poisons and herbs is a tradeoff that warriors need to deal with as well. It's just that - a trade off. Some people would gladly take +1 con over +1 cha anyway.

And splendor robes are still great for bashing no matter how you look at it.

Also, I hear that maestro instruments never decay once they reach masetro?
Athana2006-10-24 21:59:02
QUOTE(Fallen @ Oct 24 2006, 02:48 PM) 346329

If you buy a shieldrune, you can wield a tome if you don't mind not having weaponparry. And you don't need weaponparry while bashing or fighting a mage/guardian/druid/bard/wiccan


I really think you should be able to weaponparry with your instrument. I mean to bards it's as much of a weapon as a staff or a sword mad.gif
Verithrax2006-10-24 21:59:20
QUOTE(Fallen @ Oct 24 2006, 07:48 PM) 346329

If you buy a shieldrune, you can wield a tome if you don't mind not having weaponparry. And you don't need weaponparry while bashing or fighting a mage/guardian/druid/bard/wiccan

Instruments are supposed to be two-handed now, although I'm not sure whether this has already been done or whether it affects older 'prenerf' instruments. But because of the way instruments are coded, you can't buy a prenerf instrument from someone and I feel abusing that would be kind of lame.
Unknown2006-10-24 22:00:57
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Oct 24 2006, 02:58 PM) 346333

Also, I hear that maestro instruments never decay once they reach masetro?


They don't decay so long as they are played regularly. So, if you go inactive, they'll start to decay.

QUOTE(Verithrax @ Oct 24 2006, 02:59 PM) 346335

Instruments are supposed to be two-handed now, although I'm not sure whether this has already been done or whether it affects older 'prenerf' instruments. But because of the way instruments are coded, you can't buy a prenerf instrument from someone and I feel abusing that would be kind of lame.


Ever thought that maybe she wasn't serious when she said that, and was just saying to show that if you -really- wanted t challenge her, she could further enforce realism?
Vix2006-10-24 22:01:35
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Oct 24 2006, 04:58 PM) 346333
Also, I hear that maestro instruments never decay once they reach masetro?

You can instrumentbond a maestro instrument and when you play it every now and then the months go backwards.


.... ninja.gif 'd
Verithrax2006-10-24 22:04:46
Meh. Running around with a shield in one hand and a mandolin in another would be just plain stupid. The fact that you can play a mandolin, standing up, while holding it is already unrealistic enough.
Ashteru2006-10-24 22:05:28
QUOTE(Fallen @ Oct 24 2006, 10:00 PM) 346336

Ever thought that maybe she wasn't serious when she said that, and was just saying to show that if you -really- wanted t challenge her, she could further enforce realism?

Pointed that out too. *shrug*
Unknown2006-10-24 22:06:10
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Oct 24 2006, 03:04 PM) 346340

Meh. Running around with a shield in one hand and a mandolin in another would be just plain stupid. The fact that you can play a mandolin, standing up, while holding it is already unrealistic enough.


Right.. because its not like shields are worn on the forearm or anything..

And its not like a 2 foot faeling can wield TWO 6 foot swords.

Seriously, Verithrax, stop trying to apply reality.
Unknown2006-10-24 22:06:54
Ya know, I think I'm willing to put up with a touch of unrealism in exchange for being able to shieldparry or weaponparry.
Vix2006-10-24 22:11:02
Yeah, if they can do all of those acrobatic tricks (especially handstand) while holding their delicate mandolin, let the bards play with one hand!
Unknown2006-10-24 22:11:55
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Oct 24 2006, 05:45 PM) 346325

poisons (Which we don't use)
Poison would actually be a good choice for an ecology fetish-weilding commune bard at least. dunno.gif

Edit:Or even herbs, for smudges as well.
Alaskar2006-10-24 22:33:56
How do I get to the lusternia wiki to see the skills?
Unknown2006-10-24 23:04:52
QUOTE(Fallen @ Oct 24 2006, 06:48 PM) 346262

It gets stronger. InstrumentBond is essentially Cudgel, or staff, or symbol. Your damage will be more than doubled from what it is with a 0% instrument.

Actually, I think it is equivalent to nature curse/blast/cosmicfire. With my bonded instrument at maestro I now kill obesefessors in 7 hits of minor second, whereas before it took 5 hits of cudgel.

Until Elfen bards get their new/old racial specialization, I have lost 2 intelligence... but the drop from 17 to 15 is not enough to account for two additional hits, I believe. I wish I had nature cursed the astral critters to have a comparison.
Nementh2006-10-24 23:05:08
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Oct 24 2006, 10:04 PM) 346340

Meh. Running around with a shield in one hand and a mandolin in another would be just plain stupid. The fact that you can play a mandolin, standing up, while holding it is already unrealistic enough.



Uhhh....


IPB Image

That is a mandolin.... easy to play while standing....
Unknown2006-10-24 23:05:26
QUOTE(alaskar @ Oct 24 2006, 10:33 PM) 346371

How do I get to the lusternia wiki to see the skills?

If you mean Scrying Pool, it's here
Ashteru2006-10-24 23:06:07
QUOTE(Avaer @ Oct 24 2006, 11:04 PM) 346382

Actually, I think it is equivalent to nature curse/blast/cosmicfire. With my bonded instrument at maestro I now kill obesefessors in 7 hits of minor second, whereas before it took 5 hits of cudgel.

Until Elfen bards get their new/old racial specialization, I have lost 2 intelligence... but the drop from 17 to 15 is not enough to account for two additional hits, I believe. I wish I had nature cursed the astral critters to have a comparison.

Uh, no way that you can drop an Astral creature with 7 cosmicfires. tongue.gif It takes me like 6 from my symbol without crits.
Unknown2006-10-24 23:09:23
I have a 10% magic enhancement rune.
Diamondais2006-10-24 23:09:28
Curse is weaker than Blast. sleep.gif
Ashteru2006-10-24 23:13:59
QUOTE(Avaer @ Oct 24 2006, 11:09 PM) 346387

I have a 10% magic enhancement rune.

which should only really factor in every tenth hit.