Except you two are comparing an online relationship to an IRL-based meeting... those two things are completely different. Completely.

I myself am in a long-term, long-distance originally internet relationship, but it was most certainly completely different than if we had both met eachother in person first. I have no problem admitting that I know for certain that, if I had met her first in real life, we probably wouldn't be together now.

The internet allows a much greater intimacy while also providing people with a built-in barrier.. that allows them to be completely different people, while also taking social norms completely out of the equation.

The reality of it is that most women will pick the asshole over the nice guy. You can argue it all you want, but its true. At least up until a certain age. Then things start to balance out.

But in the high-school and college years, yes, the jerks will have the majority of girls, because young women have generally crap self-esteem, so they resign themselves to thinking this guy who might be nice to her just to get into her pants is actually a really great find.

Hell, I've actually had girls like me too much to date me. This one, had just gotten out of a relationship and we sorta fell together, but because I actually cared about her and tried to help her, and because she found herself actually falling for me, she broke it off to go with a guy she didn't have a problem rebounding with and hurting.

People are strange, and while I don't think the originally posted "guidelines" are anywhere near at all applicable to even a small majority of women, there are some generalities which hold true enough... that's why they became generalities in the first place, after all.

just to clarify, our relationship is online because we couldn't get together just yet. But Cairam is saving up money to get to Israel, and live with me. So I don't think the seperation you pointed out is -too- valid. I am quite aware that living with each other is going to be different and new... but we know alot about each other- though there is -always- more to.

Jerks will get the girls for the same reason as loud people get heard more often. But soon enough you realize they shout nonsense... not too many of them last. Also, society poses an issue on girls in highschool- they need to be popular, so they need to go out with -certain- people... again, the loudest.

Won't convince me that it's better off being an idiot at any case. Also... I had to swallow the "I like you too much to date you" pill too. It's a load of... -cough-. They simply didn't want to be with me in a romantic way.

To each his own, I remain firm in my opinion.

toodles.

Fallen brought an interesting point.. Internet screws everything up and yes, the "guide" is based on general knowledge, and it does help.

And yes, Nars, the loudest will always be heard, that's the reason one needs to learn how to shout once in a while.

And just to clear things up. I need to define what "arseholery" is.

It could be understood from simple jerkery or clownery(jestery) to being somewhat cool(as in with a cold mind) and calculating. That can easily deviate into an Ass if you don't balance it too well (you become a bad joker, a prick or an evil bastard). The reason why I bring the issue of arseholery is because you cannot be all lovey-dovey all the time and too much sugar is bad for you. You need to balance things out. You need to always be cool, calmed and always be a fool. But yeah, jerks win the girls mainly because of the "confidence" they have (no, it's not lack of self-esteem), but that comes somewhat from their "cool" attitude they asume into themselves. Believe me, it works wonders.

Most women like arseholes, and that's a fact. Also, here's an interest theory I really enjoy and has some truths in it

http://www.intellectualwhores.com/masterladder.html

All of you intelectual whores(nice guys).... enjoy