What about me? Don't let me feel left out I lost 15% at level 77 during that revolt, and I killed a ton of people, and did a LOT of influencing. I had to have died at least 10, if not 15 times.

You can still chop and realitycheck in an unbreakable room..why not just chop/realitycheck then put down sanctuary to break if you couldn't already?

I'm confused at what you're asking?

I didn't say that killing a Hartstone gets rid of the meld, I said it gets rid of the Demesne effects. Keep killing the demesne holder (anyone with perceive can tell who it is) and you've gotten rid of the effects. Considering a lot of demesne holders usually work solo, it shouldn't be that hard a thing to do. Especially when its 3V1 orgs, and the combatants of the other orgs quintuples+ your own fighting force.

First, killing the holder but not the demesne would be a very poor strategy to keep. It is the removal of the demesne that removes the threat, not just the killing of the holder. Killing the holder opens the way to destroying the demesne without any obstruction, but killing the holder should not ever be the end all goal of your group tactics when fighting for villages. Like I said before, all the person has to do is run back and put the effects back up.

It has become clear to me that you have very little experience fighting in demesnes. For one thing, a druid/mage in his/her own demesne is not that easy to chase down. Really, if one does not want to fight, he/she does not have to fight. I personally could escape huge groups of enemies as a mage with the help of demesne effects. The auto-knocking of people into trees would allow me to do the same thing if I were a druid. It is not as easy as you think to track down and kill the demesne holder, if the person has any decent amount of skill. Heck, there is an ability that demesne holders have that allows them to instantly travel to their demesne center when they are in their demesne.

Anyhow, you keep using this 3v1 excuse. It was a 1v1v1 fight. You can't even really count Glom, because I remember only seeing one person from there running around killing for fun (Definitely was not there trying to influence the village). Still, 3v1 or 20v1 does not justify using Sanctuary to protect a demesne. Demesnes were created so that they can be broken by an enemy faction. So you can not supply any excuse that I will accept.

I was responding to this question..



Correct me if I am wrong but what I took from this is "how will you realitycheck and chop in sanctuary if they are agressive actions." My response was to just realitycheck and chop how you normally would without sanctuary and then if the room was unbreakable because of sanctuary you would then be able to do so.



When you kill the mage/druid holding the demesne it goes something like this for them:

1. Die
2. Conglute
3. forest/aqua/geo/whatever -cast center
4. put up demesne effects again (you even have the choice of using regrowth if you're in that much of a hurry)

Come now nothing, it was an insane amount. If you failed to see them all, then I could care less.

Err, if someone's holding a sanctuary at an endpoint to keep a demesne unbreakable, how are you going to realitycheck or chop if they are aggressive actions, which they are at the moment? Making them be doable in sanc means that if you enter a room, you can sanc, realitycheck/chop, then break, without the demesne holder being able to do a THING about it even if he's right there (unless he had a crusade already set up, but there are so many ways to force someone to drop a crusade, it really isn't terribly funny).


You missed the dangerous part - the part where you have to REJECT GRACE but can't defup, because you need to raise effects asap. I was running through the influence undeffed most of the time in Dairuchi x_x