1) Tael
2) Sarrasri
3) Azora
4) Ista
5) Nejii
6) Caedryn
7) Derian
8) Turnus

There are eight more, not including the ones Kharaen mentioned.

Wow, are people really trying to insinuate I didn't fight offensively in the war now? That's funny, because so far as I know I've been on every Supernal hit Serenwilde's been on, led one (badly) myself and led two village raids (one of which worked), and gone out to kill quite a few people who've been jumping Seren. The only thing I didn't do was go out and jump people while they were bashing for participating in the war. Is that a requirement now? People should keep me updated on these things!

EDIT: Oh, and this was despite the fact I voted against the war -every- time, and the only reason we went in the first place is because I was outvoted by the other guildmasters. I'm pulling my weight here.

@Ista -

I wouldn't call myself a dedicated fighter.

I have REALLY nice weapons/armour and a vague idea of what I'm doing. However, people keep ordering weapons and stuff off me, meaning I never get to leave the forge or finish setting up my attack aliases.

I'll get in there and have a go, but otherwise, I'm only average at best.

It's a fiendish plan, I tell you!

You weren't on that list. I'd probably include you as capable of offensive action.

And, ok, compare your numbers to Celest's, and I think you'll see the crux of Narsrim's argument.

Oh, quite, the fact that Seren had fewer people willing to participate is one of the reasons we opted to end it. We (the ones who didn't want to fight but did anyway, and in Serenwilde's case at least the ones who didn't want to fight and didn't BUT GOT KILLED ANYWAY) were taking the brunt of it for those who -did- vote for the war but then...didn't do anything about it.

Oh, I'm flattered, being insulted by someone I've never spoken to both IC or OOC. :/

Alright, I see you refreshing, so I'll grant you a reply.

Speech is extraneous. Between alts and the arena, you get a decent idea of someone's demeanor. And really, if I can turn on my demesne and use my bashing alias, it doesn't matter how testosterone driven you are. You don't count.

Shiri, if you're talking about my post, I wasn't insinuating that you weren't active in the war. However, nobody took a stand to organize and lead the war.

If you look at the time that I tried (when the war was reviving, or so we thought) I was criticized, my ideas were all shot down, and I was told I should leave such things to the champions and leaders of the Serenwilde.

The problem was none of those people did that job. I can't blame you, you didn't even want to be in the war, but the fact was that we WERE in a war, so someone should have taken charge of our offense.

Anyway, that's all off-topic I think.

At least you're heard of.

I've been back in Lusternia for..maybe two, three RL months. I rarely post on the forums, I don't interract a huge much outside of my family, and I allready get someone insulting me on the forums?

A cross between Flaca and Yini? I don't even know all the types of guards my commune has. Hides? Yes, I do hide. I'm not going to sit still and let 5+ people come beat on me.

...Alts and the arena? I don't recall ever using demesne and cudgel alone against anybody.

And, to be honest, I detest bashing. And testosterone.

No, he means that's all he had to do to kill you. And its not an insult to say you're a not-so-great fighter when you its the truth. You just admitted it. So how is it an insult? Someone else said you were a dedicated fighter and he contested that fact. Its not an insult.

Still more then 3-4...

I'm not quite sure why a Gloomfolk is commenting though. You've got even less people :S

But they weren't in a war, were they?

If Xavius was Marshall:

<--Xavius on Public board
<--Glomdoring vs. Magnagora
<--Magnagora
<--Glomdoring

Hehe, given. But if you include 'at war' status, then add Ixion and Athana to the Serenwilde count And I think a lot of Seren fighters went to Celest, but I don't know for sure. I'm sitll pretty new.

Derian you didn't just insinuate that none of the leaders participated, you expressly stated such. And you were shot down on the commune board not because you had ideas or opinions but you started saying you were in charge of it all while at the same time making very insulting statements towards non-Moondancers.

For the record I didn't disagree with most of those posts although I couldn't work out at first where you were getting those bizarre priority ideas from. (You explained yourself later so I was less bothered.)

I admitted being a bad (not-so-great) fighter? :/

This thread makes me lol.