QUOTE(Avaer @ Oct 27 2006, 12:38 AM) 347197
We lost, utterly, and surrendered. Not because Celest fought better than we did, but because Celest fought and we didn't.
When the commune voted to step up and start fighting, there was about 2 days where strategies and tactics were formulated to enter the war for real. Then the SEG decided that they would surrender and not call it surrender, that they would ban angel-killing without saying they were banning angel-killing, and that they were doing it because they had failed to take responsibility for keeping nice with the other organizations.
Personally, I wish we had an alternative leadership. I don't like that our current one can't take responsibility without confusing politik-speak and beaurocratic loopholes that alleviate them from taking a stand. But as ultimately we are to blame for our leadership, we have to accept that.
I know Anarias tried very hard to work for a fair diplomatic compromise, even though Celest flatly refused any such attempt. I am sure Nejii tried as best he could to give the commune the opportunity to choose surrender on its own terms. But in the end, we failed, and failed miserably. Our leadership failed, because we fought a war that apparently meant nothing more than that they were too afraid to step up and take action in the first place.
I thought it was more than that, I was proved wrong.
You got your peace, Shamarah, you got what you wanted. Serenwilde won't interfere with cities anymore, we'll just be the snuggler's source of alchemy we were always meant to be. At least for the next few decades anyway, who knows what will happen in the future.
I don't know why the venom and cruel mockery is necessary, when you have won in every conceivable way. What do you gain by the public humiliation of the players, OOCly, who were on the losing team? What is it about Lusternia that encourages so much vindictive and childish behaviour when it is already abundantly clear who succeeded and who failed?
Congratulations, it might be a hollow victory, but it is a victory nonetheless.
When the commune voted to step up and start fighting, there was about 2 days where strategies and tactics were formulated to enter the war for real. Then the SEG decided that they would surrender and not call it surrender, that they would ban angel-killing without saying they were banning angel-killing, and that they were doing it because they had failed to take responsibility for keeping nice with the other organizations.
Personally, I wish we had an alternative leadership. I don't like that our current one can't take responsibility without confusing politik-speak and beaurocratic loopholes that alleviate them from taking a stand. But as ultimately we are to blame for our leadership, we have to accept that.
I know Anarias tried very hard to work for a fair diplomatic compromise, even though Celest flatly refused any such attempt. I am sure Nejii tried as best he could to give the commune the opportunity to choose surrender on its own terms. But in the end, we failed, and failed miserably. Our leadership failed, because we fought a war that apparently meant nothing more than that they were too afraid to step up and take action in the first place.
I thought it was more than that, I was proved wrong.
You got your peace, Shamarah, you got what you wanted. Serenwilde won't interfere with cities anymore, we'll just be the snuggler's source of alchemy we were always meant to be. At least for the next few decades anyway, who knows what will happen in the future.
I don't know why the venom and cruel mockery is necessary, when you have won in every conceivable way. What do you gain by the public humiliation of the players, OOCly, who were on the losing team? What is it about Lusternia that encourages so much vindictive and childish behaviour when it is already abundantly clear who succeeded and who failed?
Congratulations, it might be a hollow victory, but it is a victory nonetheless.
Qft.
At least Shorlen has more reasons than just this to loathe the Serenguard and their leaders
Gogo anti-unity Seren history!QUOTE(Sylphas @ Oct 27 2006, 09:25 AM) 347412
Why can't we defend Nil? So the people who want conflict have nothing to do for years at a time?
He has a point. If you want to avoid conflict altogether, you should move to Glomdoring. At least we have more fun doing nothing.
QUOTE(Noola @ Oct 27 2006, 01:21 PM) 347467
You forgot Bam Squish = boring = bad. Creative killings = fun for the whole family = awesome.
Also forgot the cute baby pandas!
