That makes more sense now! Completely missed that.

I'll try to be more grammatically correct in the future, but don't hold out hope.

I think you Moondancers need to talk with the Hartstone/Serenguard a bit more, and find out about the other Spirit in your forest.

Avatars != Hart. Good gods. Hart = Moon. The two great spirits of Serenwilde, are Hart and Moon. Not Hart, Luna, Selene and Albion. Not the White Stag, the White Foal, the White Buck, the White Doe and Moon.

If you mean in terms of mechanically what would harm Serenwilde, sure... losing Hart loses x amount of power, and losing avatars causes y amount of power to be lost as well. That's because Moon doesn't exist physically as a entity that can be killed. But try to think in RP terms.

The Avatars -are- Mother Moon, just like the Aspects -are- Brother Hart.

I don't think this is Hartstone being upset with anything. As a player, I'd like the Avatars/Aspects to both have impact on the commune, since both Spirits are important. I actually think it should be next to impossible to kill Hart/Crow... but killing the Avatars of Moon or the Aspects of Hart should both be feasible and meaningful. (or the Avatars of Night and the Aspects of Crow)

Saying I don't know that Moon and Hart are our two Great Nature Spirits is a lie. That's just not the point of the thread(we were talking about the mechanics and trying to change it, or even if it should be changed). Saying the Aspects=the Avatars for RP, as far as how their followers respect them isn't true either though, you've got Hart, he's in ur forest, eating ur cookies, we've only got the Avatars, it doesn't matter if you’re talking IC or OOC, the Avatars are all we have for as much as it matters, it kinda sucks.

If anyone is to blame for not enough people in the serenwilde knowing as much about Hart as the hartstone wants them to, it’s the Hartstone, they’re always secretive, and kicking others out of their areas... oh and covering up dark secrets of their bloody past…














…murderers

Actually thats Charune.

And were not murderers! We just lose people to the Taint that come back and start civil wars and then we get killed by the Serenguard. Theyre just mean to us...

How is it not true?

There is an entity called Mother Moon, and Mother Night. The Avatars happen to speak on their behalf most of the time because they're all omnipresent and intangible, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Need to quote Star Wars rising...

...must review A New Hope for quotation...



Edit: "Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Vader. That ancient religion hasn't helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes or give you clairvoyance enough to---"

As much as it seems stupid to take the side of someone who gets half chocked to death, and then eventually blows up in a fiery death anyway... It's hard to relate to something you almost never see, and has no physical form, well until Lucas made up all the about the midichloriens in EP1 and whatnot...

stupid rich guy, wrecking his own movies.