Bookies

by Anarias

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Anarias2006-10-31 21:51:08
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17.4.1 BOOKIES

(See also: HELP FORBOOKIES)

This book making system allows you to fulfill your life-long dream of becoming
a bookie or at least hanging out with bookies! Yes, you too can gamble yourself
into soul-crushing debt like a pro.

In order to gain a bookmaker's license, you must go to the Delosian Bookmaker's
guild, off the lottery office there. Then, you just BUY BOOKMAKING PERMIT ...
assuming you have 200,000 gold on your person.

Command Syntaxes (For everybody)
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BOOKS
  - List the ids of current games you're able to bet on.

BOOK
  - Get a detailed summary of an ongoing game.

BET ON IN
  - Places a bet for a specified amount of gold on a particular choice in a
    particular game. When a winner is declared in the game you will, if you
    bet correctly, be paid off according to the odds that were placed on that
    choice. For instance, if you bet 100 gold on something that pays off at
    3:2, your 100 gold goes away, then if you win you'll get back 150 gold.

  - THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU EXPECT! Let's take another example: the odds are
    5 to 4. You bet 4000 gold. Your 4000 gold is taken away. Now you win.
    You are given 5000 gold (minus fees and taxes, but let's just assume
    you get the whole thing for now). You now have 1000 more gold than
    when you started. This is how the betting system works.

  - To place a bet for general Achaean events (not sponsored by one
    particular bookie) you must be in the Delosian Bookmaker's guild.

  - To bet for a particular bookie's event/book, you must be in the same
    location as the bookie.

BOOKMAKERS
  - Lists those with bookie permits.


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17.4.2 FOR BOOKMAKERS

Be very clear that every new game you create should always include
exactly one choice that will win. This is so important!

If you have an event with, say, 3 outcomes (the sun rises early,
the sun rises late, or the sun rises on time), and you only have
two options (early and late), then what happens in the other case?
What happens if the sun comes up exactly on time? You will not be
able to declare a winner, since there was no winner, and you will
have to close the game and refund everyone's money. This is not good
for you, o bookie!

So make sure that no matter what happens, you will be able to declare
a winner.  

You may not create games with out-of-character content, or any content
that violates other Achaean policies (such as our policies on obscene
or discriminatory language). Doing so may result in the revocation of
your bookie license, with no refund of your licensing fee.


BOOKMAKING COMMANDS
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BOOK NEW GAME <br /> - Creates a new game.<br /><br />BOOK <id> TITLE <newtitle><br /> - Change or set the title of a game.<br /><br />BOOK <id> DESC/DESCRIPTION <text><br /> - Set a description of the game.<br /><br />BOOK <id> FUND <gold><br /> - Invest some gold in a game. For every sovereign that a potential bettor can<br />   win you must invest one sovereign into the game. <br /><br />BOOK <id> ODDS <choice> <larger chance> TO <smaller chance><br /> - Set the odds for <choice>. Example: BOOK 3 ODDS 2 10 TO 1<br />   You cannot change this once a game has been opened.<br /><br />BOOK <id> ODDS <choice> REMOVE<br /> - Remove a choice from a game.<br /><br />BOOK <id> OPEN<br /> - Begin taking bets on a game.<br /><br />BOOK <id> CLOSE<br /> - Stop taking bets on a game.<br /><br />BOOK <id> DECLARE <choice><br /> - Declare a particular choice a winner. When this happens, all winners and <br />   the bookie are paid what they're owed, minus 5%. <br /> - Warning: Any attempt at cheating bettors will result, minimally, in loss<br />   of your bookmaker's permit. There's nothing worse than a dishonest bookie.<br /><br />BOOK <id> CANCEL<br /> - Cancel the game. This will return all money to all parties involved and no<br />   fees will be assessed.<br /><!--c2--></div><!--ec2--></div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308943]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Unknown</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2006-11-01 00:01:56</span><label for="hide_reply[308943]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content"><!--quoteo(post=348913:date=Oct 31 2006, 03:51 PM:name=Anarias)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Anarias @ Oct 31 2006, 03:51 PM) 348913</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><br />Yes please <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dreamer.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":dreamer:" border="0" alt="dreamer.gif" /> <br /><br /><!--c1--><div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><!--ec1--> <br />BOOK <id> DECLARE <choice><br /> - Declare a particular choice a winner. When this happens, all winners and <br />   the bookie are paid what they're owed, minus 5%. <br /> - Warning: Any attempt at cheating bettors will result, minimally, in loss<br /><!--c2--></div><!--ec2--><br /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />This will be abused like no tomarrow if you let the bookie decide what won.</div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308944]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Anarias</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2006-11-01 03:26:10</span><label for="hide_reply[308944]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content"><!--quoteo(post=348954:date=Oct 31 2006, 05:01 PM:name=Greleag)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Greleag @ Oct 31 2006, 05:01 PM) 348954</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><br />This will be abused like no tomarrow if you let the bookie decide what won.<br /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Actually that hasn't been the case at all in Achaea where this system comes from. If a book is run on an arena event its pretty obvious who the winner was from deathsense. Likewise with miniature battles. Its counter-productive to cheat the books so obviously because a bookie with a reputation for cheating will make no money. In Achaea there are great bookies who are both fair and excellent at getting profits from their books at the same time.</div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308945]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Unknown</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2006-11-01 06:16:57</span><label for="hide_reply[308945]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content"><!--quoteo(post=349025:date=Nov 1 2006, 03:26 AM:name=Anarias)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Anarias @ Nov 1 2006, 03:26 AM) 349025</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><br />Actually that hasn't been the case at all in Achaea where this system comes from. If a book is run on an arena event its pretty obvious who the winner was from deathsense. Likewise with miniature battles. Its counter-productive to cheat the books so obviously because a bookie with a reputation for cheating will make no money. In Achaea there are great bookies who are both fair and excellent at getting profits from their books at the same time.<br /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Yep. I love bookmaking in Achaea. It's a fun thing to do when I don't feel like bashing or whatever else.</div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308946]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Unknown</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2006-11-03 19:53:41</span><label for="hide_reply[308946]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content">And bookies would make much more sense in Lusternia than Achaea. In Achaea, they bet on FFAs and maybe the occasional craps game with a few random books thrown in that are purely subjective, like who someone likes more than anyone else. Something like this would help make the miniatures system useful, too. The miniatures could be quite awesome if the figures weren't so fragile. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /></div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308947]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Verithrax</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2006-11-04 23:15:30</span><label for="hide_reply[308947]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content">You can bet on miniatures, aetherships, village influences - Lusternia has a lot more competitive activities a bookie can take advantage of.</div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308948]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Richter</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2006-11-04 23:50:32</span><label for="hide_reply[308948]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content">I'd love to have this.</div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308949]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Anarias</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2007-01-02 20:07:04</span><label for="hide_reply[308949]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content"><img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bump.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bump:" border="0" alt="bump.gif" /> Still really want.</div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308950]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Mire</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2007-01-03 18:46:32</span><label for="hide_reply[308950]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content">Would this be a tradeskill on its own, or available for everyone? I have a feeling we'd be overrun by bookies unless we made it an entirely separate tradeskill or increased the price considerably.<br /><br />If it were to become a tradeskill, perhaps the amount of people who could enter a book of yours or the amount of total money in the pot could increase with your skill rank.</div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308951]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Krellan</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2007-01-03 20:24:55</span><label for="hide_reply[308951]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content">Oohh plus I had a new game I wanted to try out with the rune of dimensional instability. Though since Richter already has one and Krellan doesn't I told him the idea. We'd use different tarot cards in the box and there would be two variations. One where gamblers bet or guess on what comes out or the second where each tarot card is worth a different amount and then an appropriate number of each value is put in the box and the gambler receives the value of each tarot card which would be written down in the book or in some letter or ad. And cheating is easy to prevent here because firstly you could have the gambler place all the items in the box and so the gambler would be able to see everything in it in the first place to make sure there's nothing extra to start with. and then the Gambler can also pull his or her own tarot card out and I think everyone in the room sees what is shaken out from the box.<br /><br />hrm i'd rather have it become a common skill than a trade skill. But really a license or an artifact that gives these priveleges would probably work better than adding it in as a skillset</div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308952]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Anarias</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2007-01-03 21:22:50</span><label for="hide_reply[308952]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content"><!--quoteo(post=369060:date=Jan 3 2007, 01:24 PM:name=Krellan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Krellan @ Jan 3 2007, 01:24 PM) 369060</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><br />Oohh plus I had a new game I wanted to try out with the rune of dimensional instability. <br /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />I could do that with my new box <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /></div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308953]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Krellan</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2007-01-03 23:17:55</span><label for="hide_reply[308953]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content">bah I can't a new box until I get my cubix!! I'm still about 500 credits short</div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308954]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Unknown</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2007-01-04 15:08:18</span><label for="hide_reply[308954]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content"><!--quoteo(post=369099:date=Jan 3 2007, 05:17 PM:name=Krellan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Krellan @ Jan 3 2007, 05:17 PM) 369099</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><br />bah I can't a new box until I get my cubix!! I'm still about 500 credits short<br /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Hurry up! I need to use that cubix!<br /><br />Back on topic though, I'd like to see this offered by an artifact, like in Achaea. I remember when bookies came out over there, it was fun.</div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308955]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Krellan</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2007-01-05 20:51:20</span><label for="hide_reply[308955]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content">I kind of prefer buying it with gold since I have all this gold I don't spend but just gamble with anyways cause I think credit prices are too high and so I just gamble and win or lose instead</div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308956]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Unknown</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2007-01-05 20:56:47</span><label for="hide_reply[308956]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content"><!--quoteo(post=369688:date=Jan 5 2007, 02:51 PM:name=Krellan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Krellan @ Jan 5 2007, 02:51 PM) 369688</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><br />I kind of prefer buying it with gold since I have all this gold I don't spend but just gamble with anyways cause I think credit prices are too high and so I just gamble and win or lose instead<br /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><br /><br />Great, you're exactly the kind of person that makes the bookie's life worthwhile...</div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308957]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Krellan</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2007-01-05 21:34:59</span><label for="hide_reply[308957]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content">pshh i'm the kind of person who would make a great bookie! I keep saving up more gold and winning more gold and never spending it since I'm too cheap to buy anything that's over the price of free. So i've got all this gold to back as a bookie</div></div><div class="forum-reply"><input class="hide_reply" type="checkbox" id="hide_reply[308958]" hidden /><div class="forum-reply-meta"><span class="forum-reply-author">Unknown</span><span class="forum-reply-date">2007-01-06 11:28:36</span><label for="hide_reply[308958]" role="switch">Show/Hide</label></div><div class="forum-reply-content">How does Achaea deal with the problem of MEGA DEBT?</div></div></div><div class="forum-meta"></div></div></div></div></div> </div><!-- .fl-page-content --> <footer class="fl-page-footer-wrap" itemscope="itemscope" itemtype="https://schema.org/WPFooter" role="contentinfo"> <div class="fl-page-footer-widgets"> <div class="fl-page-footer-widgets-container container"> <div class="fl-page-footer-widgets-row row"> <div class="col-sm-4 col-md-4 fl-page-footer-widget-col fl-page-footer-widget-col-1"><aside id="nav_menu-3" class="fl-widget widget_nav_menu"><h4 class="fl-widget-title">Support</h4><div 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