Unknown2008-04-03 20:03:46
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Apr 3 2008, 11:46 AM) 499094
Those were just random numbers used for the example, but when it was implemented at least it was not implemented as a flat reduction (and I don't believe it was anywhere near as high as 20%). It was put in with a range between something like 5 and 15... eh, around that.
Shouldn't be hard for you to test, though.
Shouldn't be hard for you to test, though.
What the Envoys ask for and what gets implemented are sometimes very different things. You are incorrect in your definition of how the dodging works, in this case. Yes, there is a random chance to dodge an attack (pretty high, actually), but the reduction is always the same and not related to the dodge chance.
Dodging my physical attacks is understandable, if a bit annoying, but when someone's dodging fire, psionics, or anything else that doesn't make a lot of sense, I start to have a problem with it.
Xenthos2008-04-03 20:05:13
QUOTE(Zarquan @ Apr 3 2008, 04:03 PM) 499196
What the Envoys ask for and what gets implemented are sometimes very different things. You are incorrect in your definition of how the dodging works, in this case. Yes, there is a random chance to dodge an attack (pretty high, actually), but the reduction is always the same and not related to the dodge chance.
Dodging my physical attacks is understandable, if a bit annoying, but when someone's dodging fire, psionics, or anything else that doesn't make a lot of sense, I start to have a problem with it.
Dodging my physical attacks is understandable, if a bit annoying, but when someone's dodging fire, psionics, or anything else that doesn't make a lot of sense, I start to have a problem with it.
It works differently between PCs and NPCs. The quoted bit is NPCs. For PCs, it doesn't fire dependant on damage types, just the attack itself.
Xavius2008-04-03 20:07:15
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Apr 3 2008, 10:46 AM) 499094
Those were just random numbers used for the example, but when it was implemented at least it was not implemented as a flat reduction (and I don't believe it was anywhere near as high as 20%). It was put in with a range between something like 5 and 15... eh, around that.
Shouldn't be hard for you to test, though.
Shouldn't be hard for you to test, though.
Flat 15 DMP. What changes is how often you dodge to get that 15 DMP.
Xenthos2008-04-03 20:08:15
QUOTE(Xavius @ Apr 3 2008, 04:07 PM) 499199
Flat 15 DMP. What changes is how often you dodge to get that 15 DMP.
Ah. So it's a chance for 15 DMP to each type. The rest would still be full damage.
Unknown2008-04-03 20:10:11
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Apr 3 2008, 04:05 PM) 499197
It works differently between PCs and NPCs. The quoted bit is NPCs. For PCs, it doesn't fire dependant on damage types, just the attack itself.
Either way, isn't it still true that you can dodge someone's psychic, magic, fire, etc damage? That's the part I dislike.
Xenthos2008-04-03 20:15:26
QUOTE(Zarquan @ Apr 3 2008, 04:10 PM) 499204
Either way, isn't it still true that you can dodge someone's psychic, magic, fire, etc damage? That's the part I dislike.
Long as it isn't ranged, yes. Dodging magic/fire/stuff isn't really so bad (they still have to set it up and aim the attack at you), but psionics is a bit different.
Shamarah2008-04-03 22:05:22
Er, you can't dodge psionics unless it's been changed recently.
Ryleth2008-04-03 23:23:11
A rave to Eliron for the impromtu performance! (though we did seem to send eveyone to sleep)
Eliron2008-04-03 23:58:34
QUOTE(Ryleth @ Apr 3 2008, 05:23 PM) 499308
A rave to Eliron for the impromtu performance! (though we did seem to send eveyone to sleep)
It was fun! But you're right. Clearly we need to practice until either A ) We're really good at impromptu performances or B ) We train everyone to clap really hard in the hope we'll go away faster.
Anisu2008-04-04 21:58:19
A rave for Kyra, Reiha and Laxinova for being there to cheer me up on a black day.
Acrune2008-04-05 03:04:24
Shikha barged me away while I was falling asleep, neurotic, and in ripple, and I didn't die
Doman2008-04-05 07:37:54
Getting over 10k gold from Luciphage's drop.
<3 P.A.M.
<3 P.A.M.
Enero2008-04-05 19:27:43
Got phantasms from Lady T for having fun of Malicia by impersonating her Eagle. Although it was in manse, got two zaps and phantasms heh. Anyway, it made me giggle a little.
EDIT:
Pah, can't copy/paste ASCII. First one is a snake, the second is a turtle
CODE
You stagger backwards as a haunting ghost suddenly flashes into existence before you, but are not swift enough to stop it swinging its dead limb towards your forehead, forcing unbidden images into your mind.
                    /^\\/^\\
                  _|__|  O|
        \\/    /~    \\_/ \\
          \\____|__________/  \\
                \\_______      \\
                        `\\    \\                \\
                          |    |                  \\
                          /      /                    \\
                        /    /                      \\\\
                      /      /                        \\ \\
                      /    /                            \\  \\
                    /    /            _----_            \\  \\
                  /    /          _-~      ~-_        |  |
                  (      (        _-~    _--_    ~-_    _/  |
                  \\      ~-____-~    _-~    ~-_    ~~    /
                    ~-_          _-~          ~-_      _-~
                        ~--______-~                ~-___-~
You stagger backwards as a haunting ghost suddenly flashes into existence before you, but are not swift enough to stop it swinging its dead limb towards your forehead, forcing unbidden images into your mind.
                                      ___-------___
                                  _-~~            ~~-_
                                _-~                    /~-_
            /^\\__/^\\        /~  \\                  /    \\
          /|  O|| O|        /      \\_______________/        \\
          | |___||__|      /      /                \\          \\
          |          \\    /      /                    \\          \\
          |  (_______) /______/                        \\_________ \\
          |        / /        \\                      /            \\
          \\        \\^\\        \\                  /              \\    /
            \\        ||          \\______________/      _-_      //\\__//
              \\      ||-----~~-_ ------------- \\ --/~  ~\\    || __/
                ~-----||====/~    |==================|      |/~~~~~
                  (_(__/  ./    /                    \\_\\      \\.
                        (_(___/                        \\_____)_)
                    /^\\/^\\
                  _|__|  O|
        \\/    /~    \\_/ \\
          \\____|__________/  \\
                \\_______      \\
                        `\\    \\                \\
                          |    |                  \\
                          /      /                    \\
                        /    /                      \\\\
                      /      /                        \\ \\
                      /    /                            \\  \\
                    /    /            _----_            \\  \\
                  /    /          _-~      ~-_        |  |
                  (      (        _-~    _--_    ~-_    _/  |
                  \\      ~-____-~    _-~    ~-_    ~~    /
                    ~-_          _-~          ~-_      _-~
                        ~--______-~                ~-___-~
You stagger backwards as a haunting ghost suddenly flashes into existence before you, but are not swift enough to stop it swinging its dead limb towards your forehead, forcing unbidden images into your mind.
                                      ___-------___
                                  _-~~            ~~-_
                                _-~                    /~-_
            /^\\__/^\\        /~  \\                  /    \\
          /|  O|| O|        /      \\_______________/        \\
          | |___||__|      /      /                \\          \\
          |          \\    /      /                    \\          \\
          |  (_______) /______/                        \\_________ \\
          |        / /        \\                      /            \\
          \\        \\^\\        \\                  /              \\    /
            \\        ||          \\______________/      _-_      //\\__//
              \\      ||-----~~-_ ------------- \\ --/~  ~\\    || __/
                ~-----||====/~    |==================|      |/~~~~~
                  (_(__/  ./    /                    \\_\\      \\.
                        (_(___/                        \\_____)_)
EDIT:
Pah, can't copy/paste ASCII. First one is a snake, the second is a turtle
Acrune2008-04-05 19:30:23
Put them in code brackets?
Doman2008-04-06 13:38:11
To whoever was posessing Marinus, and called me Professor Doman, you made me smile
Ashteru2008-04-07 08:29:07
Rave: Realizing how awesome Muud is because I made 100k essence in less than half an hour.
Ryleth2008-04-07 17:37:46
Rave for the latest bunch of Harbinger novices - tip-top are the words
(now to just pray they stick around!)
(now to just pray they stick around!)
Unknown2008-04-07 18:57:02
Hooray to the Great Chieftain for my fickle finger of fate! It's a fun little toy.
Reiha2008-04-09 03:00:58
QUOTE
ANNOUNCE NEWS #1055
Date: 4/8/2008 at 19:15
From: Estarra, the Eternal
To : Everyone
Subj: Artifact Pipes
Artifact pipes have been upgraded! They now work as follows:
Artifact Pipes: 50 credits
- They always stay lit.
- Adds 10 puffs per herb.
- Can be smoked underwater.
- They will never decay.
Date: 4/8/2008 at 19:15
From: Estarra, the Eternal
To : Everyone
Subj: Artifact Pipes
Artifact pipes have been upgraded! They now work as follows:
Artifact Pipes: 50 credits
- They always stay lit.
- Adds 10 puffs per herb.
- Can be smoked underwater.
- They will never decay.
YAY!!!
Unknown2008-04-09 11:58:57
Sweeeeet!!