Aiakon2006-11-03 08:46:28
What a ridiculous thread.
I see nothing wrong with using 'k'.
It does not break my immersion, and I have fairly high standards. Your standards must be prohibitive if it breaks yours.
I see nothing wrong with using 'k'.
It does not break my immersion, and I have fairly high standards. Your standards must be prohibitive if it breaks yours.
Anisu2006-11-03 08:52:49
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Nov 3 2006, 09:35 AM) 350051
I was thinking of HELP GOODRP when I wrote that. Ahem. Doesn't detract from the goodness of my argument!
Oh, and using 'k' is only slightly OOC - Mainly because in Lusternia we don't have the metric system, and it's definitely not medieval. Generally speaking, I prefer to do things phonetically whenever circumstances allow, spelling out numbers entirely, on market ads.
Explain to me again how you measure a weapon's speed? Also, in reality there is no clear, set, admin policy on this. Hence we must assume which is most acceptable and likely based on two things, in no particular order: 1) Real life, and 2) The standards already set by fantasy roleplaying and fiction. The reason we do this is that Lusternia is more similar to both of those things than not, infinitely so, and whenever the world isn't defined, we assume it is similar as well.
Yes I am aware Lusternia (and all IRE games) have the imperial measurements in their core system, however in all 3 games you see people use metric terms more then imperial terms (like meter, kg instead of feet, lbs). And let's face it, what was Mat thinking putting imperial measurements into rapture
pottential speed is determened irl by looking, for example in aeronautics I can guess the speed of an aircraft simply by looking at it's wing designs (because I had quite a lot of flightsystems classes). The speed of a sword is quite franctly dependend only on it's design and weight. an example, a rapier in real life is faster then a longsword simply because of design. Then someone creates a scale and with a lot of study you can accuratly guess it.
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In real life, you can't determine any sort of numerical measurement using your eyeballs. You can reach comparisons and estimates.
Doesn't have to be eyes, you can use magic, everyone in lusternia can use magic (aethermagic?) and if you are trained to weaponprobe you have learned to intrepid what you feel to magic into numbers.
Oh and one thing that you can do with your eyes towards numbers, the Glassgow coma scale! So there is one atleast, I suspect there are more.
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In fantasy roleplaying, it's a faux pas to talk about stats in-character. Your elf ranger isn't hit by that orc for 23 hp, he's bashed on the side by his club and and painfully wounded.
stats of a character are a bit different then a weapon, I can't tell the density of a human either, but I know the density of air and water. weapons aren't alive
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No, you fail. Kg/l is a weight unit divided by a volume unit - Hence, it's a density unit. It doesn't matter whether it's used often (I know it isn't), but I could have said pound/ounce, kilogram/gallon or even attogram/cubic lightyear, as those are all density units. What you're saying is like saying you can't measure speed in furlongs per fortnight.
and you can't, it has been determened that only the SI-units and imperial units are acceptable because else people are going to get confused and when people get confused 3.4 miljards worth of airplanes die (ok work related nevermind)
Verithrax2006-11-03 09:10:11
QUOTE(Anisu @ Nov 3 2006, 05:52 AM) 350060
and you can't, it has been determened that only the SI-units and imperial units are acceptable because else people are going to get confused and when people get confused 3.4 miljards word of airplanes die (ok work related nevermind)
Just because it's not acceptable doesn't mean it's not an unit. That's like saying is not a word.
ETA: I demand either official policy from the admin on weapon stats being OOC, or a reasonable backstory about the creation of the weapon stats scale, so the damn thing doesn't sit in a vacuum.
Asarnil2006-11-03 09:35:33
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Nov 3 2006, 07:40 PM) 350065
That's like saying is not a word.
ETA: I demand either official policy from the admin on weapon stats being OOC, or a reasonable backstory about the creation of the weapon stats scale, so the damn thing doesn't sit in a vacuum.
isn't a word you dumbass - its an emoticon. If you can't tell the difference between a picture and a real word then you need some help.
ETA: I demand that you stop being a jackass and making demands on the admin for issues that are spurious at best and instead actually play the game without being an annoying all the time.
I bet you my ETA will get answered before yours does.
Caedryn2006-11-03 10:10:01
Verithrax, the pedantry of your comments makes Harry the Suicidally Depressed Giraffe even more sad.
He's now an Emo-raffe. Please, think of the Emo-raffe.
Unknown2006-11-03 10:17:19
QUOTE(Aiakon @ Nov 3 2006, 08:46 AM) 350056
What a ridiculous thread.
I see nothing wrong with using 'k'.
It does not break my immersion, and I have fairly high standards. Your standards must be prohibitive if it breaks yours.
Awesomeness?
Acrune2006-11-03 12:30:20
The whole use of the english language is terribly OOC. I insist that Lusternia has its own language that we all have to learn to speak, and unless we speak that language, everyone else is obligated by arrpee to shun them from society like the insane lunatics that they are.
Ialie2006-11-03 12:35:08
QUOTE(Acrune @ Nov 3 2006, 07:30 AM) 350095
The whole use of the english language is terribly OOC. I insist that Lusternia has its own language that we all have to learn to speak, and unless we speak that language, everyone else is obligated by arrpee to shun them from society like the insane lunatics that they are.
We could all learn crow speak I suppose.
Anisu2006-11-03 12:38:52
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Nov 3 2006, 10:10 AM) 350065
Just because it's not acceptable doesn't mean it's not an unit. That's like saying is not a word.
ETA: I demand either official policy from the admin on weapon stats being OOC, or a reasonable backstory about the creation of the weapon stats scale, so the damn thing doesn't sit in a vacuum.
do they have to spoonfeed you your dinner aswell?
There are hunderds of things you probably percieve as normal in lusternia that make no sense whatsoever. guess what Fantasy realities don't have to make sense, they don't need complicated fake info to explain them. Admins in lusternia don't have to spoonfeed how to RP and asking them to do so only keeps them away from fixing real problems and prevents them from creating interresting events/skills/zones for us.
To the unit system, for someone who seems to only be interrested in pushing his RP on others because it's a 'higher' standard, you seem to have a suprisingly low standard on following accual agreements made by proffesionals.
and that is an emoticon with a word in, so no it's not just a word.
QUOTE(Acrune @ Nov 3 2006, 01:30 PM) 350095
The whole use of the english language is terribly OOC. I insist that Lusternia has its own language that we all have to learn to speak, and unless we speak that language, everyone else is obligated by arrpee to shun them from society like the insane lunatics that they are.
didn't we already do that, or have I been using giberish for nothing?
Tzekelkan2006-11-03 12:43:39
I think we all know he was talking about the "F-word" .
Anisu2006-11-03 12:46:34
QUOTE(tzekelkan @ Nov 3 2006, 01:43 PM) 350100
I think we all know he was talking about the "F-word" .
not really cause the F-word is acceptable, just these boards are evil.
Noola2006-11-03 13:38:45
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Nov 3 2006, 03:10 AM) 350065
a reasonable backstory about the creation of the weapon stats scale
That would make an awesome additon to some city/commune's scholarly collection. Someone should write that!
Unknown2006-11-03 14:21:30
Back during the Holy Celestine Empire a great summit of fighters and blacksmiths gathered to agree apon a universal scale to measure the speed, accuracy, and damage potential for weapons and the ablity to protect from both cutting and blunt attacks. The numbers you hear today are the numerical placement of the weapon or armor upon those scale. The weapon probe ability in the skill of combat is the required knowledge to judge a weapon by that scale.
Noola2006-11-03 14:31:38
QUOTE(Greleag @ Nov 3 2006, 08:21 AM) 350118
Back during the Holy Celestine Empire a great summit of fighters and blacksmiths gathered to agree apon a universal scale to measure the speed, accuracy, and damage potential for weapons and the ablity to protect from both cutting and blunt attacks. The numbers you hear today are the numerical placement of the weapon or armor upon those scale. The weapon probe ability in the skill of combat is the required knowledge to judge a weapon by that scale.
Neat! Now flesh it out and write it on a scroll and submit it to your city/commune's librarian!
Aiakon2006-11-03 14:42:14
Yes, do. That would be great.
Diamondais2006-11-03 14:51:26
Im sorry, its a game.
By your standards, no warrior should ever take a weapon because of its stats. No forger should forge for hours, because wtf do stats mean? Theyre OOC.
All weight measurement should go, hey, we carry hundreds of pounds in stuff not to mention corpses and crap.
English language, any language, gone. A new one should be made up by your standards. I guess we have Crow Tongue.
Elfen, Dwarves, Trills, Dracnari, Aslaran, Lobo's, etc. should all be gone, hey, they've been featured in other stuff so theyre OOC.
Any abrieviations that we use when speak, ASAP for example, should be gone.
Any slang, loss of lettering, implied accents, gone. Theyre from RW influences.
Any geographical landmarks, types, etc. gone. Theyre from the RW.
The planes are based of RW concepts, Light, Dark, Chaos, the Elements, the Natural world, etc. so they too should be gone.
Armours, why should we care. We should do away with all forging and tailoring if we want protection, its OOC!
All of the trades, OOC!
The Cities, Communes, all have things that make them like the real world. All have parts from our History. So they should be gone too!
The game history, scratch it. It was created OOC!
I could go on, but I think you all get my point now. To steal Murphy's line; Harden the up princess.
By your standards, no warrior should ever take a weapon because of its stats. No forger should forge for hours, because wtf do stats mean? Theyre OOC.
All weight measurement should go, hey, we carry hundreds of pounds in stuff not to mention corpses and crap.
English language, any language, gone. A new one should be made up by your standards. I guess we have Crow Tongue.
Elfen, Dwarves, Trills, Dracnari, Aslaran, Lobo's, etc. should all be gone, hey, they've been featured in other stuff so theyre OOC.
Any abrieviations that we use when speak, ASAP for example, should be gone.
Any slang, loss of lettering, implied accents, gone. Theyre from RW influences.
Any geographical landmarks, types, etc. gone. Theyre from the RW.
The planes are based of RW concepts, Light, Dark, Chaos, the Elements, the Natural world, etc. so they too should be gone.
Armours, why should we care. We should do away with all forging and tailoring if we want protection, its OOC!
All of the trades, OOC!
The Cities, Communes, all have things that make them like the real world. All have parts from our History. So they should be gone too!
The game history, scratch it. It was created OOC!
I could go on, but I think you all get my point now. To steal Murphy's line; Harden the up princess.
Melanchthon2006-11-03 15:03:22
Really, all this fuss. The IRE model is a far cry from a role-play oriented game. I'm more surprised that people find ooc behavior surprising. Think of it like Wal-Mart...it sells a bit of everything with the intent that any random person will have a higher probability of finding something they want to buy. If that's not the environment you want to play in, you're better off shopping somewhere else than trying to change what is sold.
Shorlen2006-11-03 15:12:11
Umm, I use "k" to mean "thousand" all the time in normal speach. How is it OOC to use it in Lusternia? Is "thousand" such an OOC concept?
That's like saying using a , to seperate large numbes is OOC. In fact, writing digits instead of the words for the numbers is OOC. Instead of "14,432 gold", we should say "fourteen thousand, four hundred thirty two gold"
That's like saying using a , to seperate large numbes is OOC. In fact, writing digits instead of the words for the numbers is OOC. Instead of "14,432 gold", we should say "fourteen thousand, four hundred thirty two gold"
Noola2006-11-03 15:21:55
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Nov 3 2006, 09:12 AM) 350137
Umm, I use "k" to mean "thousand" all the time in normal speach. How is it OOC to use it in Lusternia? Is "thousand" such an OOC concept?
That's like saying using a , to seperate large numbes is OOC. In fact, writing digits instead of the words for the numbers is OOC. Instead of "14,432 gold", we should say "fourteen thousand, four hundred thirty two gold"
Actually, in writing, I think the rule is if it's over a certain amount (not sure what that amount is... 100? 1,000?) you're supposed to use numbers, not words. I'll look it up later (when I'm not working on forms for school sites) and be more exact. But anyway, since the medium of gameplay in Lusternia is writing, I imagine the same rules apply for numbers.
Diamondais2006-11-03 15:24:21
QUOTE(Noola @ Nov 3 2006, 10:21 AM) 350140
Actually, in writing, I think the rule is if it's over a certain amount (not sure what that amount is... 100? 1,000?) you're supposed to use numbers, not words. I'll look it up later (when I'm not working on forms for school sites) and be more exact. But anyway, since the medium of gameplay in Lusternia is writing, I imagine the same rules apply for numbers.
Its 10, or so my English teacher strove to teach us. Regardless, its a language rule so therefore; OOC!