I'm not arguing good or bad here. I try to avoid expressing opinions that aren't heavily grounded in tangible evidence. However, saying that capital punishment does not deter crime is patently false.

Condoning the death penalty doesn't make me a murderer. -I'm- not the person administering their lil sleepy shot. I've also not stated any conditions. Im saying REAL murders and rapists deserve to die. If there is undeniable freggin proof that you did what you did then you deserve the reprocussions for your actions.

edit: Feel more than free to disagree with me. It doesn't bother me at all that everyone has differing opinions on the matter. I'm sick, twisted, unforgiving, and incompassionate and well aware of all this

I would just add to that that few people who are anti-death penalty have any concerncs about doctors killing people.

Um, yes they do.

I would certainly be concerned about doctors killing people. As I think 99.99999% of people would, regardless of whether they support capital punishment or not.

Not according to Polls in the U.S.

I have no problems with euthanasia, yes.
Why? Well, Euthanasia usually should just be given to people who are going to die a slow death. If they choose to want it quick, well, that's their choice. I'd probably do it if I had to decide between dieing in three hours or dieing over the course of a month.

Keeping them in prison for the rest of their life keeps them from doing it again as well, tax payers spend more because of appeals (really, though, gyms and cable?! Hell, even I don't get that), and one innocent execution is enough to make me dislike the death penalty.

Capital crime does not deter crime 100% of the time would have been more accurate for me to say, but I think this is something everyone is still debating...

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~chance/teaching_...les/JLpaper.pdf
http://www.nodeathpenaltywi.org/PDF/Deterr...9%2020%2006.pdf
http://www.aclu.org/capital/general/10441pub19971231.html
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view.php/54068

But the gun thing is a huge factor.

Edit: Also, I support euthanasia. It's your own life, your pain, your decision. Where did you get or hear of this poll, Daganaev?

Which is a sad, sad, sad thing, given how the Bible is a horrifically bad example of a judicial system:



Good thing, then, that it's not true - Our judicial system is based off Roman law, not Leviticus, which definitely helps keep mortality rates down.


John: Bob assaulted me!
Bob: Jane made me do it!
Jane: I blame the media.
Media: Video games.
Game industry: Er, personal responsibility?
Personal responsibility:

Oh, the irony.

So... if I follow a lynching squad around, say 'Yeah' when they shout and threaten their victims, and maybe help pick up a stone or two for them to throw, I'm not in any way responsible?


Or hospitals. Or schools. Or a government. There'd be about five of us, and they'd be all vegetables.

*sigh*

Ok, let me rephrase that.

The Kingdom of Israel, from 1000 B.C.E. till 70 C.E. did not have prisons.

Eddited out political correctness :-p Despite efforts, the whole CE crap did not catch on...

Since you are most likely never going to publish a history or archaeology paper, you are excused... but they now edit out C.E. stuff...

What does BC and AD stand for again? People tell me Before Christ and After Death, but that can't be right.

US isn't everybody, neither will they ever be everybody

I don't even know what that has to do with this thread :/

Thats it supposedly.

Before Christ and Anno Domini (Latin: Year of Our Lord, supposed to start from his birth)

BC=Before Christ
AD=anno Domini Nostri Jesu Christi (In the year of the Lord (Jesus Christ)

And Kharean, papers published in Canada are also being editted with AD BC... most historians use AD BC becuase we recognize the whole CE bull crap as a political game that people are playing to make an issue that does not matter that they can grand stand, and enrage a group of people against another.

We stay out of that fight, and ignore it.

I read B.C.E. as Before the Coming of Estarra at first. >_<

I think it is actually. Modern civilisation was born from the fall of the Roman Empire, and that's when Christianity hit off. Time restarted, and the year's started up again with 0 being After (Christ's) Death, or AD. Obviously different places have different calender years (Japanese new year is different from the British new year, for example, and year count is different.)

EDIT: 'd by Nementh, with better information >.>

Still teaching C.E., B.C.E in our schools.

I was referring to polls taken in the states not necessarily reflecting the thoughts of other countries (or even other states.)

I think B.C is Before Christ, and A.D is like Anos Dominae or something in Latin, which I think is like "After Dedication" or something... no idea..

And it really erks me when someone says something that is blankly false, and I am in a bitchymood right now, so some is about to get it.



WRONG WRONG WRONG! Where are you from son? Let me guess... "The West" right?

I have never seen a book use BC and AD, ever. in 3 years of Anuban, 6 years of Prathom, 6 years of Mathayom, and 2 years of University study, in Thailand, and in The United States of America. My History book from the USA, used BCE and CE, so does my Science book. Political documents and newspapers back home use BCE and CE, as well as our time reference, BE for Buddhist Era, the year 0 being the year The Lord Buddha gained Enlightenment... this is the year 2549, and that is enforcable upon anything.

No one edites out BCE and CE that I know of, because I see it everywhere... if you said BC and AD someone would look at you like your retarded where I live, especially outside of the Capital or a big tourist city. As far as I know it is the same in other areas, Cambodia/Laos/Vietnam/Burma.

Sorry, but I just had to rant on someone...

love,mimi