Did you not read Charune's reply?

Charune != Serenwilde

Charune != infallible either, especially when we're dealing in the semantics of a situation, not actual events.

So you're saying that you are Serenwilde, and Charune has no knowledge of the workings of the Inner Moonhart Circle of which he is (presumably, at least) one of 5 members?

I don't think I really even have to comment.

Actually, Charune isn't technically one of the members of TMC. The five members are the four guildmasters and Nejii.

Ah, I forgot to count Ialie. *coughs* My number should have been 6... as I am assuming that they have included him in the "Inner Moonhart Circle" clan. That could be wrong, but I'd be very surprised if it is. Most organizations like their Patrons listening in to political decisions.

It's ok, I've pretty much given up on Glomdoring anyway. A year of attempts at reconciliation, including mini-events with your own patron that involved sacrifice both at an IC and OOC level and more recently constant negotiation for at least a fine to be paid... and still blanketly refused... I don't think there's any point in continuing. The irony is I was enemied mostly for illusions, spreading lies about the Glomdoring to their way of thinking. I'm sure very annoying and frustrating illusions, ones that I died for quite a few times when hunted down by your patrons, but nonetheless an excellent example of using Crow's teachings.

So, I really get the impression that Glomdoring has the same issues it has always had - with both stagnation and throwing around the "our RP says we have to do it this way, so what about the effect on anything else" card that you so constantly accused Serenwilde players of using.

I hate the Glomdoring as a concept, OOCly, I really do. Most of the problems I have with enjoying myself in Lusternia stem from its implementation, its player's revision of history and IC claims and direction, and the effect of various Glom-Seren events on our own culture or lack thereof. But I've said enough about that on these forums to fill a novella, and none of it has been productive in the slightest. Quite honestly, I'm one player of thousands, so if this approach works for a hundred players and only pisses off one, then its not a terribly bad thing. I'm tending towards inactivity these days anyway, so it probably won't even matter in the long term.

Your statement was that Ixion was required by the serenwilde to slay daughters to prove himself to the seren.

Your statement was wrong. (I've since explained the situation So "I don't think I really even need to comment " )

If at a later date Charune required Ixion to dance around in a pink frilly dress, I couldn't give a as it's not relevant to this conversation.


..but which I also don't stipulate to happening either, but don't deny, again no evidence was presented for that either. If Charune wishes to present evidence for or against that, that's his choice, but please see my last posting where Charune != Serenwilde. Vira might = glom so your views might be biased in that way, but it's quite different in the seren, Charune/Lisaera/Elycrion/and the big A man, have all, at times, shown how They != seren, They are Their own People

Yeah...I remember asking Ixion to do that as something of a test, as he'd not (I seem to remember) ever been enemied to Glomdoring before.

And also I remember having said so on the SEG clan rather than the IMC clan.

There is some pretty annoying BLATANTLY FALSE propaganda on the forums about Serenwilde that people seem to think is true, but that's not one of them.

Yeah, I think Zenji just got owned.

Lots of negative energy here....where's Noola to balance it out?

And yay, Viravain is back! *throws flowers everywhere*

Could someone sum up the last page and a half of blatherings for me?

Nejii and I worked out a deal to reduce my ridiculously large fine back then, and that's that. Don't really see what the arguement is.

Since it was MY suggestion for Ixion to prove himself truely wishing to join the Serenwilde by killing the Daughters, and since Nejii followed through with it. I would have to say that you are quite wrong.

Got to love seren's general don't ask don't tell policy about every single piece of information out there, I was around when IMC members said the opposite of what Nejii just said, nice to know seren still doesn't tell even it's ministers what's going on, and changes their mine about things from day to day. One mention on a channel one day that’s the opposite of everything else that’s ever been stated proclaimed and what-not.

The IMC people could have told you something different because they didn't have a clue what was going on either. It probably wasn't a diabolical plot to conceal information.

We're writing a scroll right now that keeps people up to date on policies that aren't in the Leaves, as I mentioned in one of the many news posts I and other Moonhart Circle members have been using to keep people up to date. Perhaps I missed a message from you regarding feedback about it.

Yes, Viravain is back, as we all knew she would be. Whoop-de-damn-do. *Moves on with his life*

This thread has become just slightly off topic so I'm going to go ahead and close it. If you wish to continue the conversation/argument about what did and did not happen with Ixion I suggest a new thread elsewhere.