Do you test anything, Forren? Tumble is not hindered by whirlpool... but it can suck you back in (more so for larger races given they tumble at the speed of sloth) most of the time right after you move out of the room, thus your net movement is hindered, but tumble isn't, technically speaking.

One major concern with Whirlpool though is that it hits through shield.

It's the sucking you back in part that has more of the problem. You shouldn't tumble out to be immediately sucked back in.

Bad Forren Bad!

Well since stonewall poses a minor concern and as Narsrim pointed out, Great Pentagram with a flamed monolith is a major concern (You won't even need the flamed monolith since noone can teleport to you from the Pool), perhaps its time to reconsider putting the Pool of Stars back to its original position?

Bah, different complaints about Celestia all get put in one and make Celestia too weak, now...

I don't think the position of the Pool should be put back the way it was, which was too good for defense. Why not just add an extra exit from the current room to a nearby one?

If you cannot understand it Neraka, you need to fight more, as Narsrim stated.... stonewalls are actually no big deal.

Yes there is going to be a nerf hopefully with whirlpool, but YOU are not getting it unless you changed guilds suddenly after they made TH reasonable. So please do us both a favour and don't discuss something you do not understand and obviously have never had happen to you. But yes whirlpools can pull you into a demesne, just ask Tuek, Athana or Daevos..... During a FFA they all at some point were OUTSIDE of an aqua demesne and were pulled into it..... I guess that is the whirlpool effect, I get it mixed up with the insane current effect sorry



I am impressed you didn't want to cower at the nexus, kudos to you this time, now the rest of my post makes perfect sense.

You do have one valid point, now that the summoning thing is handled, you should be able to have 2 exits. But definately not 4 again.

4 exits were just insane. Celestia needed to be nerfed some, and it was. Being able to port from the nexus should be ok, just not summon to the nexus.

By the way, I am glad you banged your head.... I did my job....

His first statement was not in the same vein as Revan's statement implying that only Celest hangs by their nexus. That being the case, my statement would not be appropriate as a response to his. Now yours was an appropriate response to Revan, but you did not make your statement against his. You made it against mine, which was also appropriate against Revan's statement. If my statement was made without quoting Revan's statement, then you would have quoted me in context and your statement would have been a valid one to make.

Also, you evidently do not understand the concept of context, because you have to include all of the statements to make yours humorous. Just quoting me shows you did not read what I had quoted, and so places your statement out of place. I suggest you go back to the drawing board and try again. Your humor at best was juvenile and out of place, and that is why I did not catch it.

You sound like Aiakon

His first statement was I believe in the same vein of pointless insults randomly thrown, That being the case, my statement would be appropriate as a responce to his and of course numerous other comments yours inculded. Now my responce was appropiate to revans, acrunes and gebs among others responces but I did not place revans, acrunes or many others in my responce, instead I selected the person to last make a responce on this level, which just so happened to be geb. If my statement was made quoting just your statement or all of revans, acrunes and numerous other statements then my statement would have been just as valid to make.

Also you evidently do not understand the concept of space, or humor, because you do not have to inculde all of the previous statements to make my responce valid. Just quoting you shows that I assumed that people would be sharp enough to realise and understand the flow of a conversation, are you not sharp geb? I suggest you go back to the drawing board and try again or perhaps find that rod. My humor is of course juvenile and quite simple, which is why I'm surprised you did not catch it.

What all is still allowed to knock you into a nexus? I thought it all was blocked, but *details removed*. Lived though

Take a look at the news post. Things like this should be BUGged, not discussed on the forums.

But that would involve me finding it. Eh, maybe after lunch. From what I remember of the announce, I thought it was magical transportation that was blocked, such as summon and teleport and empress. Though beckon doesn't work, and thats not really magical.

After all.. it's about your weight. You're not punching the wall.. you're throwing yourself at it.

P.S Please don't nerf stonewalls. Let's not have one knee jerk change instigating a second. Let's just sort out the first so that the second isn't an issue.



Fly.

Or send someone to fly, teleport, flood, put up defences.



Given how articulate and well formed that post of Geb's was, I'm going to take that as a compliment.

That part doesn't work. There are other options, though.

The only thing that was changed was teleporting and summoning, if I remember the post correctly.

Guess I was wrong, I'll edit my posts about the bug.