Hello all. I've recently slid from Achaea, to Lusternia. It seems most excellent. Smaller player base (of course) but excellent for hardcore role play. Anywho, with all the race choices, I haven't a clue what to choose. I'm aiming to go Nihilist with tarot.

Now i'm not one to aim for specialist races such as ones with extreme int or insanely fast balance/eq, and i've narrowed it down to two choices, but I DO want your input! Dracnari or Faeling. Fae have higher int, but low con. Is the con (being 9) low enough to cause a problem to be a tradeoff for only 1 point higher int than Dracnari?

Also, Dracnari's breathe fire at 50. Is that the same as Xorani fire breath in the other IRE ones? (eg. mainly a role device)?

Also, if you have any other "Nono. You REALLY need to go if you wanna be effective, even just in bashing.)

Really i'm intrested mainly in RP, bashing, and slight combat. Im not aiming to be the master combatant of all the planes or anything.

Thanks in advance

Well, the difference in con between Faeling and Dracnari is deceptive. You see, the Faelings have a sip bonus, where the Dracnari have a sip disadvantage. And trust me when I say, (being one who recently switched from being Viscanti to Lucidian, after playing a Viscie for eons), sip disadvantages are terrible.

With that in mind, I'd think Faeling would work best, (plus the balance bonus they get works well for Tarot, or so I'm told,) but for just bashing? You can bash as anything.

I've never ever seen fire breath used. Which may answer your question.

EDIT to add: How do sip advantages and disadvantages relate to con? Well, total health doesn't really count for much, as far as I know. There's enough damage dealing junk in this game that if you don't drink health, you will die quickly even if you have 10k health. So you'll need to be sipping health, and... well, the less health you get back from sipping, the worse off overall you are.

Like if a Faeling is sipping for... oh... 1.1k, and a Dracnari is sipping for 600 or so, the Faeling will end up tankier, although the Dracnari has like double health.

If that makes sense.

And assuming my reasoning isn't flawed somewhere.

You would more likely prefer a Faeling if Magnagora allows them. (I cant remember what Fain's stand was on Faelings).

Hi! Tarot is an awesome choice for Nihilists.

Faelings SEEM to be terrible at tanking, but their level 2 sip bonus easily offsets their absurdly low con. Dracnari, on the other hand, have a level 2 sip PENALTY.

To compare sips at level 60 (a nice, round number):

Faeling: Max health = 300+(level*(3*con+4)) = 300+(60*(3*9+4)) = 2160
Faeling: Average sip = ((0.15 * maxhealth) + 100) * (sipbonus * 0.1 + 1) = (.15*2160+100)*1.2 = 508.8

Dracnari: Max health = 300+(level*(3*con+4)) = 300+(60*(3*15+4)) = 3240
Dracnari: Average sip = ((0.15 * maxhealth) + 100) * (sipbonus * 0.1 + 1) = (.15*3240+100)*0.8 = 468.8

What does this mean? Faelings are TANKIER than Dracnari. Unexpected, isn't it?

To look at other differences: Faelings have one more int, which means more damage while bashing. Faelings have more charisma, allowing you to influence if you'd like. Faelings have a level 3 balance bonus, and you use balance when flinging tarot cards. Faelings have less size, which most people perfer (low size = faster writhe/tumble, high size = more summon/stun resistance). With the Diminish skill in Cosmic, Faelings have 1 size, which is almost insta-writhe. Faeling flight, forest regen, and herb balance bonus can all be ignored, since they won't help you as a nihilist who can fly anyway, will never really fight in a forest, and when herb balance is already darn fast.

Dracnari have fire resistance, which is offset by their cold suseptability. You'll be fighting Aquamancers and Glomdorians who hit with cold damage more than you'll be hit by fire-based things, like CosmicFire (which noone uses in a real fight anyway). The psyhcic damage resistance is nice though against telekinetics. Poison resistance is silly for you, since only Magnagorans do poison damage anyway.

Just be aware that Magnagorans may be prejudiced against faelings.



Yes.


So, in short, Faeling isn't a bad choice at all. The traditional perfered guardian races are Taurian for tankiness, Aslaran for speed, and Humans for their experience bonus. I see Faelings as just as good though, given how nice sip bonuses are, and how not-nice sip penalties are.

Honestly though, go with that you want.

Heh, guess it's up to if Magnagoria accepts faelings or not. Hope so though, since now that you explained it, the sip penalty, useless (to me) poison resist, and lack of faster balance seems bah now.


Albeit I don't wanna rp a race that's disliked, in the city I'll live/love.

Athana is often a faeling for village influencing purposes, but that might be more accepted since she is a changling. Ask just about anyone in the "currently in the realm and able to induct new citizens" part of HELP MAGNAGORA, they should know.

Thanks a lot everyone for the help. I'm really looking forward to Lusternia. Looks like it's gonna be a LOT better than Achaea.

I can't add to anything seeing as I'm rather new here myself and don't know a lot about it. I will give you a huge welcome though. And I agree with your statement here. Enjoy yourself!

According to Magnagora's 'CHELP LESSERRACES', Merian and Elfen are -allowed-, but not permitted various things. (IE, power withdrawal, respect, above a certain Cr/GR, something like that). Faeling are a cross between the Fae and the Elfen, but the scroll never covered that.

I had a faeling Geomancer quite a while ago, nobody voiced negative opinions.

Faelings are fine in mag, I remember a few faeling geos.

Only Merian and Elfen fall under the lesser races afaik. Fain also dislikes furrikin or faeling, can't remember which it was exactly. Should be fine as a faeling really.

If you'll allow me to hijack this topic, I'd like to say that I too am new, though from Imperian. I've only played a day or two, but I'm already enjoying my Moondancer. Though, how do I connect into Lusternia with Mudmaster? I think I'll stick around.

Same as Imperian. Lusternia.com on port 23.

Hrm, never heard of that one

Thats just aiakon

Yessssss.. but then, Furrikin are asking for it, with their cute expressions and strokeable fur. Faelings probably should be hated, but aren't. Frankly, it's just not OOCly practical to hate and ban everything, and playing wide ranging racial hatreds gets really tiresome. Aiakon isn't terrifically pro Faeling, because of the Elfen shard thing.. we really need to work out ICly what the difference is anyway.. it's a bit of an inconsistency.

I've been told ICly that Faelings don't have shards, when Shikari returned and Viravain was explaining the concept of mortals to him (and most of us who were gathered around were wee little faelings), which would explain why Fain doesn't hate us like the spawn of Elfenehoala.

However, it's been a subject of a huge amount of debate both ways (including: if we don't have shards, what exactly makes us individuals? The fae part?)

Ah. Interesting. If Faeling aren't elfenhoala sharded, than that makes them only very slightly obnoxious, and not really that bad at all.

Indeed, Fain only dislikes Elfen and Merian. Mixing up Aiakon and Fain, hmm, can't be good at this rate