Fire and Frost

by Tzekelkan

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Tzekelkan2006-12-11 14:32:49
Okay, I've been wondering for a long time and today I've read something on the forums and I thought that cleared it up. However, I then read something on The Scrying Pool and it said the exact oposite.

Does sipping fire potions protect against fire, or against frost?

Does sipping frost potions protect against fire, or against frost?
Shorlen2006-12-11 14:34:31
QUOTE(tzekelkan @ Dec 11 2006, 09:32 AM) 362132

Okay, I've been wondering for a long time and today I've read something on the forums and I thought that cleared it up. However, I then read something on The Scrying Pool and it said the exact oposite.

Does sipping fire potions protect against fire, or against frost?

Does sipping frost potions protect against fire, or against frost?

Fire potions provide a one-shot defence against shivering. If you are hit with a shivering effect with a fire potion up, you lose the fire potion defence, but do not become shivering.

Frost potions provide 15% resistance to fire damage.
Jillian2006-12-11 14:35:09
Fire cures being frozen, that's as much as I know. I'm guessing frost then cures being on fire. What they protect against is something else, but I haven't tried that yet.
Tzekelkan2006-12-11 14:36:11
Ooooh. Damn, was I off.

Thanks a bunch!
Shorlen2006-12-11 14:38:01
QUOTE(Jillian @ Dec 11 2006, 09:35 AM) 362135
Fire cures being frozen, that's as much as I know. I'm guessing frost then cures being on fire. What they protect against is something else, but I haven't tried that yet.

In addition to what I said above, fire potions cure shivering, and turn frozen into shivering. If drunk while not shivering or frozen, they provide the one shot resistance to the shivering affliction.

Frost potions cure burning if drunk while on fire, and grant the 15% fire damage resistance mentioned above if drunk while not on fire. Being on fire doesn't effect this fire damage resistance at all - it's a defence just like most other defences.
Mire2006-12-11 18:59:55
What about tailoring proofs? Is it fireproof (requiring fire potion) to protect yourself from fire or from cold?
Shorlen2006-12-11 19:06:34
QUOTE(Mire @ Dec 11 2006, 01:59 PM) 362208
What about tailoring proofs? Is it fireproof (requiring fire potion) to protect yourself from fire or from cold?

To make things a bit confusing, Fireproofing (which takes a full vial of fire potion) protects you from fire damage. Frostproofing (which takes a full vial of frost) protects you from cold damage. Both are 10% resistance to the damage type. Though, proofings on Splendor robes are doubled to 20% resistance each (except against the Maelstrom attack, in the weirdest bug? I've ever seen).
Soll2006-12-11 19:15:02
Fire elixir gives resistance to cold.
Frost elixir gives resistance to fire.

Fireproof is a resistance to fire damage.
Frostproof is a resistance to cold damage.

To my knowledge.
Shorlen2006-12-11 19:19:03
QUOTE(Soll @ Dec 11 2006, 02:15 PM) 362211
Fire elixir gives resistance to cold.

99% sure that's wrong. Care to test it sometime?
Soll2006-12-11 19:36:01
Yup, more than happy to.
Tzekelkan2006-12-11 20:03:41
More testing! wacko.gif

Anyway, fire proofing and frost proofing was pretty clear to me, but if you want to test some more, give it a shot! biggrin.gif
Soll2006-12-11 20:20:46
No defences.
2873h, 4367m, 4616e, 10p, 13265en, 20735w elrxk---\\\\20:17:33:296//
Hyrtakos grabs you by the back of the neck and pulls you forward into an embrace. His cold lips press against the neck, and you are momentarily frozen in pain as your lifeforce is sucked from you.
2330h, 4367m, 4616e, 10p, 13265en, 20735w elrxk---\\\\20:17:33:625//(H:-543)


Fire potion.
2330h, 4367m, 4616e, 10p, 13265en, 20735w elrxk---\\\\20:17:42:546//
Hyrtakos grabs you by the back of the neck and pulls you forward into an embrace. His cold lips press against the neck, and you are momentarily frozen in pain as your lifeforce is sucked from you.
1830h, 4367m, 4616e, 10p, 13265en, 20735w elrxk---\\\\20:17:44:906//(H:-500)


Fire and HOLD BREATH.
2522h, 4367m, 4616e, 10p, 13265en, 20735w elrxk---\\\\20:19:28:671//
Hyrtakos grabs you by the back of the neck and pulls you forward into an embrace. His cold lips press against the neck, and you are momentarily frozen in pain as your lifeforce is sucked from you.
Fortunately, from holding your breath you find that you are unhurt.
2308h, 4367m, 4616e, 10p, 13265en, 20735w elrxk---\\\\20:19:34:187//(H:-214)

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Conclusion:

Fire potion offers about a 15% resistance to cold damage, as has been tested with Frost in respect to fire damage. Hold breath blocks 100% of the asphyxiation damage.
Shorlen2006-12-11 21:00:15
Interesting. Thanks for the testing!
Genevieve2006-12-11 21:28:11
Does the frost potion stack with the fire proofing?
Shorlen2006-12-11 21:32:43
QUOTE(Genevieve @ Dec 11 2006, 04:28 PM) 362253
Does the frost potion stack with the fire proofing?

Of course, though the stacking should be midway between additive and multiplicitive, I think.
Genevieve2006-12-11 21:37:39
Well, I should hope it's not multiplicative. That would make it somewhere along the lines of .15%.
Shorlen2006-12-11 21:40:05
QUOTE(Genevieve @ Dec 11 2006, 04:37 PM) 362258
Well, I should hope it's not multiplicative. That would make it somewhere along the lines of .15%.

Umm, additive is where 10% + 10% = 20% (.1+.1). Multiplicitive is where 10% + 10% = 19% (1-(1-.1)*(1-.1)).
Genevieve2006-12-11 21:41:36
Well I stand suitably corrected.
Mire2006-12-12 23:28:05
What about something like getting the shivers or being frozen, rather than actual damage? Does '10%' in this case mean that, with the proofing, you have a 10% chance of not being afflicted by a freezing-inducive attack?
Tzekelkan2006-12-12 23:34:57
I doubt it, but I wouldn't really know.

And if what Soll tested is true, then that means that you lose your 15% cold protection when that one-shot defense against shivering goes off?

Also, does quicksilver offer anything besides the one-shot protection from Aeon?