Unknown2006-12-12 17:43:39
By the way Narsrim..
Sometimes, when it's in the late, small hours of the evening.. And you're sitting on your chair, looking at your screen dejectedly, wondering "Why won't Mag let me in? :cry: " followed by"Why was I removed as envoy damn you Forren, Celest, and Terentia!". When those moments come, you need to look at this thread.
Do it enough times, and one day you may understand.
Sometimes, when it's in the late, small hours of the evening.. And you're sitting on your chair, looking at your screen dejectedly, wondering "Why won't Mag let me in? :cry: " followed by"Why was I removed as envoy damn you Forren, Celest, and Terentia!". When those moments come, you need to look at this thread.
Do it enough times, and one day you may understand.
Narsrim2006-12-12 17:49:00
QUOTE(Visaeris Maeloch @ Dec 12 2006, 12:43 PM) 362499
By the way Narsrim..
Sometimes, when it's in the late, small hours of the evening.. And you're sitting on your chair, looking at your screen dejectedly, wondering "Why won't Mag let me in? :cry: " followed by"Why was I removed as envoy damn you Forren, Celest, and Terentia!". When those moments come, you need to look at this thread.
Do it enough times, and one day you may understand.
I've been offered entrance into Magnagora, which I turned down. I was even berated by Morgfyre for it. As for this thread, it is very possible I over reacted, but I did mention this on DoK (a clan I'm in with Geb), and he did seem to imply it was engage that was stopping me.
I certainly may be wrong - and if so, I apologize... but I see no reason why I'm not climbing out of these pits -except- for engage. I usually don't have problems climbing out of pits. The only difference I see from the normal is engage.
In the end, something is wrong here. Nothing in any of those logs should be preventing me from climbing up (eating a herb, sipping a potion, focusing mind, engage). At this point I believe it becomes a matter of "what" is it?
Shorlen2006-12-12 17:55:11
As I've said before, I have no idea exactly what things stop climbing. It's why I loathe pits.
However, that said, I'm fairly sure SeverNerve stops you, and you were hit by SeverNerve several times in that log while climbing.
However, that said, I'm fairly sure SeverNerve stops you, and you were hit by SeverNerve several times in that log while climbing.
Unknown2006-12-12 17:56:10
QUOTE
However, that said, I'm fairly sure SeverNerve stops you, and you were hit by SeverNerve several times in that log while climbing.
If that's the case, he's right in that he shouldn't have been hit by engage. If the climbing failed, engage should not connect.
Shorlen2006-12-12 17:56:52
QUOTE(mitbulls @ Dec 12 2006, 12:56 PM) 362504
If that's the case, he's right in that he shouldn't have been hit by engage. If the climbing failed, engage should not connect.
Hrm, good point. That is quite odd.
Narsrim2006-12-12 17:57:52
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Dec 12 2006, 12:55 PM) 362503
As I've said before, I have no idea exactly what things stop climbing. It's why I loathe pits.
However, that said, I'm fairly sure SeverNerve stops you, and you were hit by SeverNerve several times in that log while climbing.
QUOTE
You spring a trap!!
The ground suddenly falls away from beneath you and you go tumbling into a pit,
landing painfully on the hard ground.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
4557h, 7289m, 7239e, 10p, 28944w exkd<>-
Alias "0" will now execute: "climb up"
4557h, 7289m, 7239e, 10p, 28956w exkd<>-
fly
There is not enough overhead room to fly.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28956w exkd<>-
Cleaving through your defenses, Geb makes a slow deadly strike at your left arm
with an elegant darksteel katana. He stumbles forward as he fails to strike you.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
climb up
You take a long drag off your pipe.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
Geb moves in to engage you.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You begin to climb out of the pit.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w ekd<>-
In a pit at in the ante-room.
Evidently a place to relax and unwind either before or after a meal, an air of
absolute luxury is maintained here. An elaborately detailed box of cigars is
open upon a mantelpiece carved from a single length of bone, a deep-pile crimson
carpet extends into the room to the south and colossal bookcases of polished
wood contain works of a variety of study, both fictional and factual, although a
preponderance are of recipes or other gastronomic articles. Waving in the astral
winds, a sparkleberry bush drinks up the power laden atmosphere here.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w ekd<>-
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
With a focused look, Geb strikes at you with an elegant darksteel katana. The
blade bounces off your sternum, delivering only a shallow puncture.
A magic aura flares around you and completely absorbs the damage.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
Hmmmm. Why must everything be so difficult to figure out?
4557h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
4557h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 636.
4557h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You are stuck in a pit and must CLIMB UP to get out before you can move.
4557h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
You aren't such a complete idiot anymore.
4557h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
What do you want to eat?
4557h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You bleed 29 health.
4528h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 635.
4528h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
The plant has no effect.
4528h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
4528h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You focus your mind intently on curing your mental maladies.
4528h, 7102m, 7424e, 10p, 28893w exkd<>-
4528h, 7102m, 7424e, 10p, 28893w exkd<>-
Geb lashes out at you as you turn to flee.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
This is when I first fell into the pit. At no point did I get a pierced nerve (which does cancel it mid-climb up).
Geb2006-12-12 17:58:59
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Dec 12 2006, 06:49 PM) 362501
I've been offered entrance into Magnagora, which I turned down. I was even berated by Morgfyre for it. As for this thread, it is very possible I over reacted, but I did mention this on DoK (a clan I'm in with Geb), and he did seem to imply it was engage that was stopping me.
I certainly may be wrong - and if so, I apologize... but I see no reason why I'm not climbing out of these pits -except- for engage. I usually don't have problems climbing out of pits. The only difference I see from the normal is engage.
In the end, something is wrong here. Nothing in any of those logs should be preventing me from climbing up (eating a herb, sipping a potion, focusing mind, engage). At this point I believe it becomes a matter of "what" is it?
I did imply it, but I was being sarcastic. Remember my words. "I knew you would be the one to figure it out." The sarcasm was based out of your recent verbal attacks on me.
Oh and here is something to notice in that part of the Log Shorlen posted.
Geb moves in to engage you.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You begin to climb out of the pit.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w ekd<>-
In a pit at in the ante-room.
Evidently a place to relax and unwind either before or after a meal, an air of
absolute luxury is maintained here. An elaborately detailed box of cigars is
open upon a mantelpiece carved from a single length of bone, a deep-pile crimson
carpet extends into the room to the south and colossal bookcases of polished
wood contain works of a variety of study, both fictional and factual, although a
preponderance are of recipes or other gastronomic articles. Waving in the astral
winds, a sparkleberry bush drinks up the power laden atmosphere here.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w ekd<>-
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
With a focused look, Geb strikes at you with an elegant darksteel katana. The
blade bounces off your sternum, delivering only a shallow puncture.
A magic aura flares around you and completely absorbs the damage.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
Hmmmm. Why must everything be so difficult to figure out?
4557h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
4557h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 636.
4557h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You are stuck in a pit and must CLIMB UP to get out before you can move. <---
Narsrim2006-12-12 18:05:27
So then what is stopping it? From my viewpoint, no action taken while in the pit should have canceled climb up once it was started. I know pierced nerves -do- stop climb up once it starts, but there are instances (like the start of the fight), where I had no pierced nerves and it still failed.
Likewise, engaged only triggers on movement. It just doesn't randomly fire. You will note each time after I start climbing up, I later hit engage.
I did imply it, but I was being sarcastic. Remember my words. "I knew you would be the one to figure it out." The sarcasm was based out of your recent verbal attacks on me.
Oh and here is something to notice in that part of the Log Shorlen posted.
Geb moves in to engage you.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You begin to climb out of the pit.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w ekd<>-
In a pit at in the ante-room.
Evidently a place to relax and unwind either before or after a meal, an air of
absolute luxury is maintained here. An elaborately detailed box of cigars is
open upon a mantelpiece carved from a single length of bone, a deep-pile crimson
carpet extends into the room to the south and colossal bookcases of polished
wood contain works of a variety of study, both fictional and factual, although a
preponderance are of recipes or other gastronomic articles. Waving in the astral
winds, a sparkleberry bush drinks up the power laden atmosphere here.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w ekd<>-
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
With a focused look, Geb strikes at you with an elegant darksteel katana. The
blade bounces off your sternum, delivering only a shallow puncture.
A magic aura flares around you and completely absorbs the damage.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
Hmmmm. Why must everything be so difficult to figure out?
4557h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
4557h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 636.
4557h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You are stuck in a pit and must CLIMB UP to get out before you can move. <---
And here?
You begin to climb out of the pit.
4557h, 7102m, 7394e, 10p, 28842w ekd<>-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 634.
4557h, 7102m, 7394e, 10p, 28842w ekd<>-
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
The plant has no effect.
4557h, 7102m, 7394e, 10p, 28842w ekd<>-
You bleed 55 health.
4502h, 7102m, 7394e, 10p, 28842w ekd<>-
Your mind is able to focus once again.
4502h, 7102m, 7394e, 10p, 28842w ekd<>-
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
4502h, 7102m, 7394e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You may eat or smoke another herb.
4502h, 7102m, 7394e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
With a focused look, Geb strikes at you with an elegant darksteel katana. You
are merely clipped on your left arm for a small cut. not a pierced nerve
A magic aura flares around you and completely absorbs the damage.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
Hmmmm. Why must everything be so difficult to figure out?
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You take a drink from a moonstone vial.
The potion flows down your throat without effect.
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You flip the bird.
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
There is nothing noteworthy there for you to read.
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 633.
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
You aren't such a complete idiot anymore.
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
What do you want to eat?
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
What do you want to eat?
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 632.
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
The plant has no effect.
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You focus your mind intently on curing your mental maladies.
4502h, 6915m, 7187e, 10p, 28767w exkd<>-
4502h, 6915m, 7187e, 10p, 28767w exkd<>-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4502h, 6915m, 7187e, 10p, 28767w exkd<>-
Geb lashes out at you as you turn to flee.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
4502h, 6915m, 6902e, 10p, 28779w exkd<>-
Geb moves in to engage you.
Likewise, engaged only triggers on movement. It just doesn't randomly fire. You will note each time after I start climbing up, I later hit engage.
QUOTE(geb @ Dec 12 2006, 12:58 PM) 362507
I did imply it, but I was being sarcastic. Remember my words. "I knew you would be the one to figure it out." The sarcasm was based out of your recent verbal attacks on me.
Oh and here is something to notice in that part of the Log Shorlen posted.
Geb moves in to engage you.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You begin to climb out of the pit.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w ekd<>-
In a pit at in the ante-room.
Evidently a place to relax and unwind either before or after a meal, an air of
absolute luxury is maintained here. An elaborately detailed box of cigars is
open upon a mantelpiece carved from a single length of bone, a deep-pile crimson
carpet extends into the room to the south and colossal bookcases of polished
wood contain works of a variety of study, both fictional and factual, although a
preponderance are of recipes or other gastronomic articles. Waving in the astral
winds, a sparkleberry bush drinks up the power laden atmosphere here.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w ekd<>-
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
4557h, 7289m, 7631e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
With a focused look, Geb strikes at you with an elegant darksteel katana. The
blade bounces off your sternum, delivering only a shallow puncture.
A magic aura flares around you and completely absorbs the damage.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
Hmmmm. Why must everything be so difficult to figure out?
4557h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
4557h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 636.
4557h, 7289m, 7424e, 10p, 28968w exkd<>-
You are stuck in a pit and must CLIMB UP to get out before you can move. <---
And here?
QUOTE
You begin to climb out of the pit.
4557h, 7102m, 7394e, 10p, 28842w ekd<>-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 634.
4557h, 7102m, 7394e, 10p, 28842w ekd<>-
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
The plant has no effect.
4557h, 7102m, 7394e, 10p, 28842w ekd<>-
You bleed 55 health.
4502h, 7102m, 7394e, 10p, 28842w ekd<>-
Your mind is able to focus once again.
4502h, 7102m, 7394e, 10p, 28842w ekd<>-
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
4502h, 7102m, 7394e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You may eat or smoke another herb.
4502h, 7102m, 7394e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
With a focused look, Geb strikes at you with an elegant darksteel katana. You
are merely clipped on your left arm for a small cut. not a pierced nerve
A magic aura flares around you and completely absorbs the damage.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
Hmmmm. Why must everything be so difficult to figure out?
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You take a drink from a moonstone vial.
The potion flows down your throat without effect.
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You flip the bird.
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
There is nothing noteworthy there for you to read.
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 633.
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
You aren't such a complete idiot anymore.
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
What do you want to eat?
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
What do you want to eat?
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 632.
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
The plant has no effect.
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
4502h, 7102m, 7187e, 10p, 28842w exkd<>-
You focus your mind intently on curing your mental maladies.
4502h, 6915m, 7187e, 10p, 28767w exkd<>-
4502h, 6915m, 7187e, 10p, 28767w exkd<>-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4502h, 6915m, 7187e, 10p, 28767w exkd<>-
Geb lashes out at you as you turn to flee.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
4502h, 6915m, 6902e, 10p, 28779w exkd<>-
Geb moves in to engage you.
Unknown2006-12-12 18:28:08
Okay, this should be simple enough to figure out without too much arguing. Set a pit and engage the target when they fall in. Test doing each of the things Narsrim did, and we find out which one caused it to fail. I'd be happy to help test things next time I'm around.
I haven't seen this from your side, Geb, but do you have a log to see if it was just bad luck that engage stopped him every time? What message were you going off of to re-engage?
I haven't seen this from your side, Geb, but do you have a log to see if it was just bad luck that engage stopped him every time? What message were you going off of to re-engage?
Narsrim2006-12-12 18:32:33
Does it have anything to do with being indoors?
Unknown2006-12-12 18:37:11
On Achaea there's a bug where if a Shield of Absorption fires and absorbs the damage from engage, you don't leave the room. It seems as though this is what the force field thing does 100% of the time, apparently preventing you from leaving when engaged 100% of the time?
It should be fairly obvious something like that is a bug.
It should be fairly obvious something like that is a bug.
Ildaudid2006-12-12 18:46:05
Look, I read through this... and I remember being told once that engage in pits are bugged. The person who told me about it, well if he ends up reading this forum he will probably back me up. But he told me that it was an old old thing, where engage could stop alot of people from climbing out. So try and verify this with Roark or Estarra or someone, maybe test it out some more with all 3 classes, but from what I remember because I was joking around with him on a way to be able to actually kill Diamante and he told me, well you can always try engage out, but it is a bug. And you would suck if you used it to win that FFA against Diamante. Anyways test it out if you want, but I remember being told engage is bugged when you engage someone in a pit...
Please do not nerf tracking anymore, fix the little errors....
Please do not nerf tracking anymore, fix the little errors....
Narsrim2006-12-12 21:42:27
QUOTE(Sidharta @ Dec 12 2006, 01:37 PM) 362516
On Achaea there's a bug where if a Shield of Absorption fires and absorbs the damage from engage, you don't leave the room. It seems as though this is what the force field thing does 100% of the time, apparently preventing you from leaving when engaged 100% of the time?
It should be fairly obvious something like that is a bug.
Sweet mother of God... this makes so much sense. I never thought about forcefield + engage.
A while back, I tried to tumble away from Ixion/company on Nil. Tumble started, I hit engaged, and it totally stopped the tumble. I asked Ixion about it, and neither of us could figure out why - but I did hit engage with forcefield up.
I bet this is exactly what it happening with forcefield/engage in pits.
=====+=====
I'll test later.
QUOTE(Engage + Forcefield)
Livictus moves in to engage you.
4557h, 7289m, 8872e, 10p, 30595w esixd<>-
You have recovered equilibrium.
4557h, 7289m, 8872e, 10p, 30595w esixd<>-
You begin to tumble agilely to the north.
4557h, 7289m, 8872e, 10p, 30595w esid<>-
Livictus nods his head emphatically.
4557h, 7289m, 8872e, 10p, 30595w esid<>-
You tumble out of the room.
Livictus lashes out at you as you turn to flee.
The force field around you flares, absorbing all damage.
4557h, 7289m, 8447e, 10p, 30595w esid<>-
Didn't leave the room.
QUOTE(Engage + Absorption Rune)
Livictus moves in to engage you.
4488h, 7289m, 8447e, 10p, 30595w esSixd<>-
You begin to tumble agilely to the north.
4488h, 7289m, 8447e, 10p, 30595w esSid<>-
Wavering translucent lights flicker silently in the distant space.
4488h, 7289m, 8447e, 10p, 30595w esSid<>-
You tumble out of the room.
Livictus lashes out at you as you turn to flee.
A magic aura flares around you and completely absorbs the damage.
4488h, 7289m, 8447e, 10p, 30595w esSid<>-
Didn't leave the room
QUOTE(Just Engage)
Livictus moves in to engage you.
4557h, 7289m, 8447e, 10p, 30595w esSixd<>-
You begin to tumble agilely to the north.
4557h, 7289m, 8447e, 10p, 30595w esSid<>-
You tumble out of the room.
Livictus lashes out at you as you turn to flee.
A calm pool of crystal blue water.
Waving in the astral winds, a sparkleberry bush drinks up the power laden
atmosphere here.
You see exits leading north and south.
Sidharta is my hero! We have identified the problem - engage will stop movement 100% of the time with forcefield up. I can't exactly prove Geb knew this (nor do I care anymore, I just wanted this fixed), but there is a bug for sure.
Morgfyre2006-12-12 21:48:40
The personal attacks have been removed from this thread. As a reminder, they are not appropriate in this (or any) forum, even if you are particularly frustrated or upset with another Lusternian.
Sylphas2006-12-12 21:54:09
Shouldn't we just delete the thread, since we're not supposed to post bugs, and after you strip out the flames, that's all it is?
Unknown2006-12-12 21:55:36
Wow, good thing there are people around here who still keep up with Achaea, I never knew that bug existed.
I hope this does get fixed relatively quickly, though. Forcefield is basically necessary against warriors, so to escape them you either have to remove forcefield (which hurts) or come up with some other clever way to escape. Granted, I'm a faeling, but at level 78 I'd have a hard time staying alive long enough even to climb out of a pit against a damage warrior.
I hope this does get fixed relatively quickly, though. Forcefield is basically necessary against warriors, so to escape them you either have to remove forcefield (which hurts) or come up with some other clever way to escape. Granted, I'm a faeling, but at level 78 I'd have a hard time staying alive long enough even to climb out of a pit against a damage warrior.
Narsrim2006-12-12 21:56:22
I personally hate the "don't post bugs" thing because if this wasn't posted, it likely would have never been discovered. I didn't post this knowing what the problem was, I posted it trying to figure it out.
Ixion2006-12-12 23:17:29
I'd like to point out that the comments here are vastly incorrect. Geb pegged some of the concerns as I would have (hinting at why you got kept in without showing the strategy)
Pits have a few bugs still, yes, but what you posted is not a bug Narsrim. I can engage you every balance, though that neither stops you every time nor does has any benefit from engaging you just once. Without trying to be insulting, the problem rests with your curing inabilities in this situation. If you review the log carefully you should be able to figure out why you got kept in the pit. In fact, Geb and I are really the only people who use that strategy effectively, so you have little to worry about from the playerbase. I also chuckle at people's reliance of flying to escape pits rather than learning how to cure out of them; think of the poor non-flying warriors and others who have to learn the hard way.
Pits have a few bugs still, yes, but what you posted is not a bug Narsrim. I can engage you every balance, though that neither stops you every time nor does has any benefit from engaging you just once. Without trying to be insulting, the problem rests with your curing inabilities in this situation. If you review the log carefully you should be able to figure out why you got kept in the pit. In fact, Geb and I are really the only people who use that strategy effectively, so you have little to worry about from the playerbase. I also chuckle at people's reliance of flying to escape pits rather than learning how to cure out of them; think of the poor non-flying warriors and others who have to learn the hard way.
Xavius2006-12-13 00:19:32
Ixion, did you read the thread? I'm inclined to say no. Pay special attention to the one where the bug is identified and correlated to a known bug in Achaea and supported with thorough documentation both in the log and in outside testing.
Diamondais2006-12-13 00:27:17
Is this thread...dissapearing and reappearing? 
