What would help...

by Malarious

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Ildaudid2006-12-17 04:52:19
QUOTE(Gandal @ Dec 16 2006, 11:15 PM) 363820

doh.gif Because that's what people were trying to do. Changing sacrifice would be fine. Making it a clone skill would be absolutely pointless.


Actually, no you are wrong, they are not trying to take away sacrifice, they are asking for a necromany rezz skill. blush.gif
Gandal2006-12-17 05:27:46
It was suggested. Anyway, I'm fine with Necromancy rezz skill. Don't see why not.
Kaalak2006-12-20 08:14:32
QUOTE(Genevieve @ Dec 15 2006, 03:28 PM) 363442

This has been a very rewarding read.


Completely agree. Its nice to learn the details on both sides of the coin from the Veterans.
Aiakon2006-12-20 16:12:45
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Dec 17 2006, 04:52 AM) 363826

Actually, no you are wrong, they are not trying to take away sacrifice, they are asking for a necromany rezz skill. blush.gif


They've already got one. Lich. Now can the Necromancers please stop whinging and apply themselves to something useful - inventing a credible Geomanctic rezzing skill.

kthx.
Unknown2006-12-20 17:30:16
QUOTE(Aiakon @ Dec 20 2006, 10:12 AM) 364720

They've already got one. Lich. Now can the Necromancers please stop whinging and apply themselves to something useful - inventing a credible Geomanctic rezzing skill.

kthx.


I think that's what they're doing...it's not feasible really for Geomancers to be able to rezz themselves. It might be feasible for Necromancers to raise them, though...hence the discussion.
Torak2006-12-20 21:32:28
Or they could just lower the cost for praying and balance out the loss between that and rezz skills. I would prefer this method rather then everyone and their mother having a new shiny rezz skill and hearing the constant arguments over whose is better.
Gandal2006-12-20 21:55:19
Agreed. Praying is just too horrible.
Ildaudid2006-12-20 22:14:00
QUOTE(Torak @ Dec 20 2006, 04:32 PM) 364799

Or they could just lower the cost for praying and balance out the loss between that and rezz skills. I would prefer this method rather then everyone and their mother having a new shiny rezz skill and hearing the constant arguments over whose is better.


Actually I think they should remove ALL rezz skills, and boost praying loss, making the game harder to gain titan, and worth the effort of killing people smile.gif
Shorlen2006-12-20 22:40:51
QUOTE(Torak @ Dec 20 2006, 04:32 PM) 364799

Or they could just lower the cost for praying and balance out the loss between that and rezz skills. I would prefer this method rather then everyone and their mother having a new shiny rezz skill and hearing the constant arguments over whose is better.



QUOTE(Gandal @ Dec 20 2006, 04:55 PM) 364811

Agreed. Praying is just too horrible.

They... .did.... it's less than half of what it used to be.
Shamarah2006-12-20 22:58:59
Clearly, the solution:

Reduce praying to a fraction of the cost, remove karma, remove Avenger, remove all rezz skills, and copy-paste Imperian's PK file into Lusternia.
Ildaudid2006-12-20 23:11:37
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Dec 20 2006, 05:58 PM) 364830

Clearly, the solution:

Reduce praying to a fraction of the cost, remove karma, remove Avenger, remove all rezz skills, and copy-paste Imperian's PK file into Lusternia.

roflmao.gif


Make praying suck!! But make it so no one can rezz save the rezz arti..... Make sacrifice like lich, you die, but come back like Jesus (ONE TIME) then if you die again you either conglut (which is the key to avoiding praying) or you pray......

Dark Rebirth same thing, (ONE TIME, like Lich)

That dance around a moon circle one, well ummm that is hard to pull off anyways, since you need so many in your coven.... so I don't know how to handle that....


Make Sacrifice and Dark Rebirth strippable, Inqui strips Rebirth, Lichdom.... make a new necromancy skill that strips Sacrifice and Rebirth, also make some SD and MD skills that do the same....


But make praying not so easy on the exp loss... but compensate it with no straight rezzing of other people with sacrifice or rezz....


happy.gif
Clise2006-12-20 23:59:05
So basically you want a griefer's paradise where noone wants to play due to rampant uncontrolled pking?
Shorlen2006-12-21 00:03:25
QUOTE(Clise @ Dec 20 2006, 06:59 PM) 364837
So basically you want a griefer's paradise where noone wants to play due to rampant uncontrolled pking?

TextQuake ftw! dry.gif
Clise2006-12-21 03:56:21
4000h, 2000m, 3200e, 10p, 25300en, 15200w - elrx - Rocket Jump
You fire a rocket at the ground as you jump and you are catapulted up into the air taking some minimal damage.
Ildaudid was caught by the splash damage for 1532 damage.
Ildaudid burst into chunks of meat and gore as your rocket explodes near him.
Ixion was caught by the splash damage for 1210 damage.
3176h, 2000m, 3200e, 10p, 25120en, 15200w - elrx -
A railgun slug was fired from the north and hits you in the head for 32000 damage.
You have been headshotted by Forren the Griefer.
0h, 2000m, 3200e, 10p, 25120en, 15200w - elrx -
You are dead.
You may PRAY FOR SALVATION.
Forren2006-12-21 03:58:02
QUOTE(Clise @ Dec 20 2006, 10:56 PM) 364873

4000h, 2000m, 3200e, 10p, 25300en, 15200w - elrx - Rocket Jump
You fire a rocket at the ground as you jump and you are catapulted up into the air taking some minimal damage.
Ildaudid was caught by the splash damage for 1532 damage.
Ildaudid burst into chunks of meat and gore as your rocket explodes near him.
Ixion was caught by the splash damage for 1210 damage.
3176h, 2000m, 3200e, 10p, 25120en, 15200w - elrx -
A railgun slug was fired from the north and hits you in the head for 32000 damage.
You have been headshotted by Forren the Griefer.
0h, 2000m, 3200e, 10p, 25120en, 15200w - elrx -
You are dead.
You may PRAY FOR SALVATION.


blink.gif

I know, my sta-- slug damage is overpowered.
Gandal2006-12-21 04:45:47
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Dec 20 2006, 06:11 PM) 364832

roflmao.gif
Make praying suck!! But make it so no one can rezz save the rezz arti..... Make sacrifice like lich, you die, but come back like Jesus (ONE TIME) then if you die again you either conglut (which is the key to avoiding praying) or you pray......

Dark Rebirth same thing, (ONE TIME, like Lich)

That dance around a moon circle one, well ummm that is hard to pull off anyways, since you need so many in your coven.... so I don't know how to handle that....
Make Sacrifice and Dark Rebirth strippable, Inqui strips Rebirth, Lichdom.... make a new necromancy skill that strips Sacrifice and Rebirth, also make some SD and MD skills that do the same....
But make praying not so easy on the exp loss... but compensate it with no straight rezzing of other people with sacrifice or rezz....
happy.gif

Teh uber bitter usual Ildaudid!
Anyway, so a situation could be
Die
Vitae
Die
Pray
only worse with horrible praying exp loss? And also skewed for credit-buying people
Torak2006-12-21 11:37:28
Removing all rezz skills and raising the loss for praying would be great actually, keep avenger though.
Unknown2006-12-21 12:34:08
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Dec 21 2006, 12:11 AM) 364832

Make sacrifice like lich, you die, but come back like Jesus (ONE TIME) then if you die again you either conglut (which is the key to avoiding praying) or you pray......


Jesus will NOT Pray For Salvation!
Clise2006-12-22 12:58:54
Actually he would just simply auto vitae with permanent divine fire and have hailstorms and boulderblast effects that goes off every 1 sec for a radius of 100 rooms.
Unknown2006-12-22 15:41:48
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Dec 20 2006, 05:58 PM) 364830

Clearly, the solution:

Reduce praying to a fraction of the cost, remove karma, remove Avenger, remove all rezz skills, and copy-paste Imperian's PK file into Lusternia.

pleasesign.gif pleasesign.gif pleasesign.gif pleasesign.gif

I nominate Shamarah for the best idea ever award.

Also, Imperian's grace lasts until you reject it.