Maybe it's designed to last a week or two so Estarra and the other Gods can spend time with Family while giving the player base something to do while they're gone?

Jeez, even our poor admins need some time off.

Meanwhile Magnagorans die about half a second after they walk into the nexus room unless they're reflected!

It takes me an hour to get 10% karma. Thus, 100% karma is 10 hours for me, and 1000% is 100 hours. Each person bringing in 100% karma doesn't seem like enough to cut it for a single seal, much less all of them, and I'm certainly not going to spend christmas eve/day bashing for karma that's only a drop in the bucket

I'm not actually complaining, I'm just pointing out why some of us feel a bit discouraged. In theory, if everyone chips in, it shouldn't be too bad.


Yeah, that's the lame part about all this, and a reason why I'd like to hurry up with getting rid of the serpent, personally. Aggressive, powerful, unkillable mob at the nexus ftl Die, conglut, die, conglut, die, conglut.

That's really my only objection. I'm happy just to ignore the "dump karma into seals" thing. But getting instagibbed through vitae is annoying as heck.

Given how hands-on this event is for the admin. I seriously doubt it's intended to give them time off, I would guess just the opposite is happening - it is very labour intensive for them. Changing room descriptions, moving the creature, making denizens and having them talk, etc.

... oops?

1) What on earth are you doing to only get 10% karma? Try doing grey moors or gorgogs or some such, you get karma so fast! Unless you influence, in which case I have no clue.

2) Yes, I've already experienced dying to it, conglutinating, then dying again. Luckily it doesn't attack -immediately- when you walk in, usually. I did feel bad when Morvior logged in, said hello on the family clan, then died to the serpent.

Advantage of being Titan.. 50% in 30 minutes.

Are you doing KARMA BURN or just using karma to get a blessing?

One thing that's ticking me off:

It's bloody great that you're not going to burn the seals because you hate it/don't want the taint back/have a better idea. But it IS getting VERY annoying when you bring it up each time the Seals are brought up.

"Are we still doing that?"
"Yes."
"I'm not going to."

"Has the X Seal been destroyed?"
"Yes/No."
"I'm not going to help."

Honestly, you've stated your opinions once, but it's getting to be a damn headache after the 30th or so time.

(You just KARMA BURN, btw.)

I was going to say something similar... I think the idea that an event is based on giving people time off is just silly.

Normally they make posts that say "We are taking time off!"

Its equally annoying to have people celebrating the cracking of the seals, trying to bring in Kethuru and generally following a plan they didn't think more then five minutes about.

I didn't get the feeling there was much choice on the matter. Shayle mentioned wishing to discuss it with the Shadow Court, which was taken as a "yes, let's weaken those seals!" by Estarra. It definitely felt like we were going full steam ahead from almost the moment we arrived. It's kind of annoying to assume there was THAT much player control of the situation. There wasn't.

That isn't my issue with it. Its the way everyone in Serenwilde is so unquestioningly on board with the idea. Its pretty clear that this plan would have been attempted regardless. However, it doesn't mean that everyone in the Basin is then forced to go through with it too.

You think you're being pushed around? Not in the least, order your guild, or vote to order your commune members to not go along with it, if you so strenuously object to it. Heck, group up and kill people who are doing it, if you want to.

Which reminds me, people were being pk'ed over that little gnome aethership event, well if that's enough to warrant such diverse reactions this is too. You just have to choose to do something, whatever that may be.

I think given the reality of the actual event OOCly (aka: Magnagorans are constantly dying to an aggressive mob at our nexus), it really just was not fair to wait around while people who weren't directly forced into suffering from this event discussed it. This isn't saying that I totally agreed with how it was done, but we had to have some sort of option or way to work on getting rid of it asap.

Uhh, nope. I don't think we're being "pushed around." From an OOC standpoint, this is an event that is affecting Magnagora adversely at the moment as Veo has mentioned. However, what I -was- saying is that this plan seems to be part of said event, and that it was going forward regardless, the amount of time spent thinking about it was irrelevant, nor did it have any bearing on the outcome.

Where do you get "strenuous objection" from exactly? Actually, don't answer that. I don't care.

The 'let's crack the seals!' plan got run down a rail and into our mouths, as far as I could tell.

Let me restate the clues that we were given that could lead up to this plan.



Also, let me highlight the best moments of the "advising session" we had with Estarra:



I disagree that this was forced down our throats at all. There were clearly many alternative ways we could have let the story unfold, and we should stop being so unfairly critical that the path that we chose was so boring, monotonous, and endlessly repetitive.

You in fact didn't object strenuously enough on the Mt., and thus that was taken as concession (you mentioned this yourself, and was in fact the complaint in your first posting, so why are you asking me to explain it to you? ), if you had wanted to, you were able to. If however OOC you feel sorry for mag, yadda yadda ect, well whatever, it’s your choice how you want to influence your char. However, you can't have it both ways, pick what you want to do and do it, don't sit on your hands and complain when someone else does what they want to do.

That's another thing I keep hearing on the forums, and from what I keep seeing of events the "players have NO say" is a complete load of bull, mostly spawned by the “he got a bigger piece of the pie then me!” reaction. Players shape these plotlines the admin spin for us, and sometimes we even shape them in less than beneficial directions, like that Xion one.