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Shorlen2006-12-29 21:29:25
ANNOUNCE NEWS #696
Date: 12/29/2006 at 21:24
From: Estarra, the Eternal
To : Everyone
Subj: Ascension Updates

Ascension Challenge Awards: Because of concerns that players would be
going for the "prizes" of the ascension challenges rather than for the
ultimate goal of ascending to godhood, we have decided not to award
permanent blessings to the winners. Each winner will receive an honour
and a unique gift from me. The gift may or may not have a power, but
that will not be revealed until after the final challenge.

Concerning the Ascended God, please be aware that it is not a role for
everyone and so think carefully before going for the gold (so to speak).
The Ascended God will not be hold any administrative powers or have any
part in the game design or implementation of Lusternia. Rather, the
Ascended God will solely be focused on running an order and developing
plots and/or events regarding his or her role. It is definitely not for
someone who likes bashing or PKing and the social interaction with other
players will likewise change (you can't be buddies with old chums and
still be an effective god). That said, the role will be many and
exciting opportunities, especially for those who want to develop
storylines and events or just develop a divine persona that will enrich
the realm.

We will be updating the challenges on an ongoing basis. Below are some
updates to Chaos, War and Beauty challenges.

Seal of Chaos: Though a hamster hunt sounds like a simple enough affair,
there are a few twists which will be revealed at the hunt. Just note
that holding the Purple Hamster is not as easy as it may appear. There
will also be second and third place prizes for those who hold the most
hamsters.

Seal of War: Four Wargames will be held with teams of 3. After all four
are won, the winning four teams will have a final wargame against each
other to determine the overall winning team. Once the final winning team
is decided, the team members are given a choice. Decide among them who
they support for Ascension and who will take the Seal, or enter a
Free-For-All and the winner of the FFA will be the winner of the Seal of
War.

Seal of Beauty: The Trademaster of each trade cartel may submit one
design that has been accepted (either public or cartel-specific), on
behalf of the cartel. The artist of that design must be specified as it
needn't be the Trademaster. For example, Trademaster Tom of the Lollipop
cartel may submit a design and specify Jane as the artist. If that
design wins, Jane would be considered the winner of the challenge. To
enter, the Trademaster should message the Charites with the Cartel's
entry and specify who the artist is at that time. The winner of this
challenge will receive the Seal of Beauty.

See http://www.lusternia.com/ascension2007.php for complete information.



I guess the combat trials won't be the absurdly funny comedy of errors and griefing it was last time. I still don't think this is a good idea though - three person instakill combos will dominate.

Beauty, I really don't like the change to. This turns it into far more of a favouritism contest amoung the players, and vastly favours people like Richter and Exarious who have ten cartels each.
Daganev2006-12-29 21:30:41
I'm still confused about beauty... lets say I have an old design I made for the ur'guard 100 years ago.... is it impossible to submit that?

Or what if there is a public design we made that we like, those are no goes also?
Xavius2006-12-29 21:33:26
There's creative thinking in response to player concerns! I knew there was a reason I liked this game. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(daganev @ Dec 29 2006, 03:30 PM) 367533

Or what if there is a public design we made that we like, those are no goes also?


If you made it, get the trademaster of the cartel it was submitted through to use it as their submission.
Daganev2006-12-29 21:37:27
QUOTE(Xavius @ Dec 29 2006, 01:33 PM) 367534

If you made it, get the trademaster of the cartel it was submitted through to use it as their submission.



Ahaa! that makes sense... so instead of one submission per person, there is one submission per cartel. Sucks for people who made designs in cartels that belong to people who are going for beauty themselves smile.gif
Isluna2006-12-29 21:37:47
I don't like the change to beauty either, I am no longer in any of Exarius's cartels, and I doubt he will submit anything I ever created. Because he might want to submit his own works too. So that cuts out how much of the player base because they can only submit 1 design?
Vix2006-12-29 21:38:50
Heh, makes the grading process much easier too. Any bets on which cartel giant will win? (Ialie, Richter, or Exarius - did I miss any?)
Shorlen2006-12-29 21:39:51
That's so lame sad.gif "Spend a million gold for a chance at winning the grand prize! Ten million for ten chances!"
Daganev2006-12-29 21:44:20
Think of it this way... These are the non invisible cartels

CODE
Dragonscale        Malicia            Forging            Celest
Silverblade        Tandrin            Forging            Serenwilde
Dreadhelm          Drago              Forging            Magnagora
Goldleaf           Rabeth             Jewelry            Serenwilde
Blackpearl         Arimisia           Jewelry            Magnagora
Diamondlight       Adee               Jewelry            Celest
Starweaver         Daxera             Tailoring          Celest
Nightsoigne        Veonira            Tailoring          Magnagora
Moonlace           Linwe              Tailoring          Serenwilde
Gourmonds          Dvyrus             Cooking            Magnagora
Epicure            Fionn              Cooking            Celest
Treehearth         Shaddai            Cooking            Serenwilde
Darkhammer         Exeryte            Forging            Glomdoring
Raventhread        Elaria             Tailoring          Glomdoring
Glitterweb         Zamarah            Jewelry            Glomdoring
Shadowfeast        Silferras          Cooking            Glomdoring
Wyrmwood           Vika               Artisan            Magnagora
Seatimber          Vanthan            Artisan            Celest
Eboncraft          Bashara            Artisan            Glomdoring
Wildecraft         Saran              Artisan            Serenwilde
Goldenquill        Kaalak             Bookbinding        Celest
Crowquill          Morshoth           Bookbinding        Glomdoring
Bloodink           Talisha            Bookbinding        Magnagora
Stagleaf           Ista               Bookbinding        Serenwilde
Blacklotus         Ialie              Jewelry            Private
Silverthimble      Arale              Tailoring          Private
GLC                Rabeth             Jewelry            Private
Blackanvil         Richter            Forging            Private
Masters            Richter            Forging            Private
Rainbows           Ialie              Jewelry            Private
Glitterbee         Ialie              Jewelry            Private
Patrician          Keldoran           Bookbinding        Private
Catspaw            Exarius            Tailoring          Private
Barracks           Zalana             Forging            Private
Type MORE to continue reading. (43% shown)
4642h, 4642m, 4378e, 10p elrx<>-
more
Catsskein          Exarius            Tailoring          Private
Marius'            Marius             Tailoring          Private
Erudion            Nihmriel           Tailoring          Private
RajasRadiance      Zadie              Jewelry            Private
Starhaven          Ialie              Jewelry            Private
LAOP               Aajen              Forging            Private
Orclachs           Lomdomian          Forging            Private
PI                 Neuf               Jewelry            Private
KC                 Klia               Forging            Private
Sweets             Rhosyn             Cooking            Private
Fates              Verithrax          Tailoring          Private
Revolution         Richter            Forging            Private
Tharedian          Shinza             Forging            Private
Catstooth          Rhosyn             Cooking            Private
Catseye            Nirandi            Jewelry            Private
Menagerie          Urazial            Tailoring          Private
Craftwork          Veyda              Artisan            Private
Gorseddau          Bastion            Artisan            Private
Hoard              Kiarlea            Jewelry            Private
Edelights          Brylle             Cooking            Private
Delights           Caighan            Cooking            Private
Silverscribe       Tully              Bookbinding        Private
Lineage            Jasper             Bookbinding        Private
Whytepearl         Gwynevere          Jewelry            Private
Faechildren        Kalodan            Bookbinding        Private
HoN                Gwynevere          Jewelry            Private
Catscradle         Melita             Artisan            Private
Workshop           Melita             Artisan            Private
Wisps              Kiarlea            Jewelry            Private
Solace             Cairam             Artisan            Private
Legacy             Empe               Tailoring          Private
Silversteel        Anaria             Forging            Private
Goldweave          Nihmriel           Tailoring          Private
Bluecandle         Neerth             Bookbinding        Private
LunaRose           Shulamit           Bookbinding        Private
Viperfang          Ishimoru           Forging            Private
Trees              Jasper             Artisan            Private
Treerippers        Daganev            Forging            Private
NCC                Nisha              Cooking            Private
SDC                Tatine             Cooking            Private
Type MORE to continue reading. (88% shown)
4642h, 4642m, 4378e, 10p elrx<>-
more
Attire             Lyreth             Tailoring          Private
Rosewood           Vanthan            Artisan            Private
Aether             Nihmriel           Tailoring          Private
Lunarblades        Tandrin            Forging            Private
Zephyr             Saran              Artisan            Private
Shadows            Callia             Tailoring          Private
Armory             Caedryn            Forging            Private
FC3                Fionn              Cooking            Private
*******************************************************************************
Total: 82



So thats atleast 82 submissions. Those 82 submissions will atleast be filtered a bit by the player community. I can't imagine what the 300 submissions would be like if each person was just able to submit something.
Daganev2006-12-29 22:17:42
I hope the 30 or so pending designs get approved/rejected before the contests begin...
Shorlen2006-12-29 22:27:11
So, under the new system for beauty, when is the last day we can submit a design and still have it approved by the deadline? I don't like this ambiguity, I was expecting to have two more weeks to write one sad.gif
Daganev2006-12-29 22:28:33
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Dec 29 2006, 02:27 PM) 367555

So, under the new system for beauty, when is the last day we can submit a design and still have it approved by the deadline? I don't like this ambiguity, I was expecting to have two more weeks to write one sad.gif


I think the submissions are due on the 13th
Shorlen2006-12-29 22:30:01
QUOTE(daganev @ Dec 29 2006, 05:28 PM) 367556
I think the submissions are due on the 13th

Well, that was for the old system, I thought. It normally takes 1-2 IC years for a design to get approved.
Daganev2006-12-29 22:32:16
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Dec 29 2006, 02:30 PM) 367557

Well, that was for the old system, I thought. It normally takes 1-2 IC years for a design to get approved.


From the website

Seal of Beauty

Date: January 20, 2007 (submission deadline: January 13)
Time: TBD
Event:The Trademaster of each trade cartel may submit one design that has been accepted (either public or cartel-specific), on behalf of the cartel. The artist of that design must be specified as it needn't be the Trademaster. For example, Trademaster Tom of the Lollipop cartel may submit a design and specify Jane as the artist. If that design wins, Jane would be considered the winner of the challenge. To enter, the Trademaster should message the Charites with the Cartel's entry and specify who the artist is at that time. The winner of this challenge will receive the Seal of Beauty.
Soll2006-12-29 22:32:46
I imagine they'll do a rush of Charite'ing on the 12th or so, to make sure they can be submitted in time.
Daganev2006-12-29 22:33:37
QUOTE(Soll @ Dec 29 2006, 02:32 PM) 367559

I imagine they'll do a rush of Charite'ing on the 12th or so, to make sure they can be submitted in time.


I would hope they do the rush now so that all the rejected ones can be fixed up and then can have a clean slate by the 13th.
Soll2006-12-29 22:36:23
These are supposed to be the best of the best pieces you're submitting, they shouldn't need fixing up grammatically or any other way. Atleast that's how I feel.
Daganev2006-12-29 23:08:01
I ment the normal submissions that people have put in for thier cartels because people want items. Not for the beauty contest.
ferlas2006-12-30 00:18:39
To be honest the whole ...
QUOTE

It is definitely not for someone who likes bashing or PKing and the social interaction with other players will likewise change (you can't be buddies with old chums and still be an effective god). That said, the role will be many and exciting opportunities, especially for those who want to develop storylines and events or just develop a divine persona that will enrich the realm.


..seems to suggest that the gods can't join in in normal pk/bashing/trade/interaction anymore and is basically a real god with an order who basically sits there not doing much different to what players see gods doing anyway. And to be honest I'm not exactly sure why anyone would want that.
Unknown2006-12-30 00:27:08
So does this mean that if we designed an article years ago that we were planning to submit, but have since changed trades and sold the cartel, we cannot enter that item?

Instead, we have to ask the new owner to forgo their own entry with ours in its place?

That seems a little... crazy.

Edit: And surely this doesn't mean that someone with 10 cartels gets 10 entries?
Xavius2006-12-30 00:31:45
QUOTE(ferlas @ Dec 29 2006, 06:18 PM) 367585

To be honest the whole ...
..seems to suggest that the gods can't join in in normal pk/bashing/trade/interaction anymore and is basically a real god with an order who basically sits there not doing much different to what players see gods doing anyway. And to be honest I'm not exactly sure why anyone would want that.


The real gods do issues, administer guides, process envoy reports, approve craft designs, sort bug reports, fix typos, build areas, and THEN get to RP.

QUOTE(Avaer @ Dec 29 2006, 06:27 PM) 367591

So does this mean that if we designed an article years ago that we were planning to submit, but have since changed trades and sold the cartel, we cannot enter that item?

Instead, we have to ask the new owner to forgo their own entry with ours in its place?

That seems a little... crazy.


Well, without the blessing, it's "wouldn't you support me as an ascended god, Mr. Trademaster, sir?" I think that's the purpose. First, you curry favor. Richter and Ialie get to skip that step, since they themselves want to ascend. For the rest of the world, it's a matter of both having a worthwhile submission and convincing someone else to state your case.