Yeah the point is take your elsewhere.

Or you could stay on topic and deal with it.

People should naturally have a negative outlook on it - the Administration is essentially thrusting forward a Godhood and saying..

"Here! Everybody fight to take this and do something with it when one of you wins. If you eff up, we remove you, and all your effort is wasted! By the way, you're an RP God but the only way you will achieve that position is by PK - which you won't be allowed to do after you ascend! Oh by the way, you can't support who you think is good for the role because this an IC PKfest at the end and you must thus support your city/commune's candidate."

Yeah. Really, I don't like this at all. It's a rather foolish thing to do.

As I told Shorlen earlier, it made me hesitate investing in Lusternia when the 'bold new experiment' of the Administration is essentially giving out Godhood to some random person who will likely abuse it and ruin things for the rest of us.

I'm really hoping they'll lift some ideas from this thread and change the method. I love the concept. It's nothing I want to do, but giving us a way of "creating" RP gods is awesome... if done right!

You may not think that not giving a permanent blessing will reduce competition... but really, given the discussions I've been hearing about it with a very varied group of players... it will. There are a LOT of people who would love a permanent blessing, but don't care so much about an honours line... and won't fight anywhere near as hard for it.

I also understand that you want it to be impartial, but your reasoning for it (didn't like that RP over someone else's?) can be easily compared to winning the Astral PK tournament (abused a bunch of cheap tactics?). Either way, there are going to be a few complaints. I'd rather have someone who the majority of the Divine think did a good job RPing, than someone who lasted for an hour by running.

I agree I think the divine should choose the god. Yeah, some people are gonna be let down. They should go in expecting that

I'm just going to say that I like this idea. Maybe the methods could be changed around a bit, but otherwise it sounds interesting.

However, I doubt Jigan would be allowed for godhood. Or if he managed it, to keep it for very long.

I'm training him.

I don't at all think that this is a bad system to work things out. With nine seals, each org should have a couple, and barring Celestians supporting Magnagorans or Serens supporting Gloms (or vice versa), I think there's enough give in the party lines to support one of the better choices who wins a seal contest. Problem is, none of the seal contests actually measure group support. Unless Knowledge was a quiz that was abso-freakin-lutely, mindbogglingly, cry-me-a-river HARD and you were allowed a small amount of research time for each question, so that the person who gathered the most skilled team of crack researchers was favored, I don't see much potential for that in what's being offered.

I read a bit of the first few posts and then skimmed everything else because I didn't want to bother reading what yall had to complain 'bout. Anyway, just wanted to say:

Thanks Estarra and all yall gods for doing this.

I think its a wonderfull idea and I hope that everyone who's about participates in the challenges and has loads of fun. I think the idea of a RP god is nice and infact, I think it's what Lusty needs. So much Kudos to yall.

oh and merry christmas (since its like...2 mins away from 12 here) and hope yall have a nice new years.

I'd like to say that even though I feel the system is fine as-is, I'd be strongly in favour of removing the permablessings. Keep the honours and maybe give them a resetting item that marks them, but no tangible boosts.

Resetting item sounds like a good idea for it!

Reiha for godhood!

PassiveagressiveB*tch wtf! You know you wanna worship me

I have quite a few complaints with this system for choosing these Ascended Gods, and I will try to address them all at once. I understand that many have been stated previously, but I'm oddly compelled to state them again.

1) The tasks set forth do nothing to measure the worth of the player. A superb hamsterhunter who also happens to be stellar at running away from combat could easily win Godhood, even if they are horrible at RP. I understand, however, that this is difficult to fix while still having the selection process be ultimately an IC one.

2) Many parties who are entirely uninterested in Ascending will be competing (and will most likely win) for the unique honors line and the permanent blessing. This will not only reduce the number of finalists who will compete for the staff, but it will also prevent people who are legitimately interested in (and may be very qualified for) Ascension from having a chance.

3) The outcome is way too easy to fix. The hamsterhunt is an obvious control element where the Admins could guarantee a particular favorite person's entry into the finals by spawning the purple hamster right next to them. Astral creatures can also be creatively spawned and despawned so that the favored contestant is touched by neither PC nor NPC attackers. Please note that I am naturally extremely paranoid and untrusting, so please do not take this as an assumption that the Admin will fix this event, I am just pointing out the obvious possibility.

4) The entire contest system seems, from an RP standpoint, to be much more of a series of carnival games with ridiculously good prizes. Trivia games, hunting competitions, and hamster hunts are things that are much less befitting of a solemn (or panicked) proceeding intended to choose someone to ascend to Divine power and more of a carnival or circus. I cannot seriously imagine dozens of stoic individuals, each determined to ascend to godhood and save the Basin from Kethuru, going on a scavenger hunt to prove their worth to the Gods.

Finally, Ascended Godhood seems to be the biggest shot in the foot a significant player could take. Essentially, Ascending means that they leave their entire RP background, their combat skills, the lessons they spent, their artifacts, their reputations, their positions of power in organizations, the IC and OOC friends they've made through the game, and all their other accomplishments behind for what is essentially a stripped-down administrative position, where you get to roleplay an all-powerful being who takes orders on an OOC level and has little autonomy. This is frankly not something I would want to do, as I feel that being a God would quickly grow old and I would fade away into inactivity with no chance to ever recover the time and money I invested on my original character.

Just curious, but where do we send in the submissions?

I would love the chance to ascend, but even if I manage to win one of the seals I most likely wouldn't stand a chance of surviving the final part unless I was somehow able to maintain a permanent serpent.

Also seeing recent events it is really unlikely that I would be able to even compete in the final event if I managed to be around for a seal I could win.

I guess we will see I just hope that everyone gets a fair chance.

Oh well, I would love to try. Though if this ascension thing works I wonder if ephemerals would be able to choose that route rather than becoming an elder, probably not but it would be interesting

I guess I just can't get my head around the idea of doing dull, thankless work for recreational activity. I prefer to get paid to do dull, thankless work and come home and do engaging, entertaining activities for fun.

And let me reiterate, I'm not saying that anyone would cheat to get a favorite into the position, I'm pointing out that the loophole exists.

They could just, you know, decide OOC anyway. The whole point is that the players (sort of) decide.

EDIT: as for the dull, thankless work - quite right, but we already know you're not doing it, and I'm not doing it. Let those who want to get on with it.

I'd go for it just to do a few events for the Serenwilde that I think they could really use, and then use it as an excuse to stop playing so much

Ok, see.... this is really, really neat!

I'm so going to try to win Noola some godhood! I prolly won't, cause I die SO easily, but I'm gonna try!

And I also want to say thanks to Estarra and the Admin for always trying to come up with nifty ideas and new things. There's a LOT of negativity in this thread! People are so quick to see and point out all the things that might turn out badly that I wonder if they consider how much hard work and thought must go into this sort of thing. Yeah, there's a chance it might not turn out perfectly, but that's prolly why it's an experiment. The word sort of implies trial and error, doesn't it? If it totally doesn't work out - if the winner of the goodhood either decides they don't like it or if they turn out to be an awful God, well that's so not the end of the world. I'm sure there can be some event where-in their divinity is lost somehow and they'll go back to being boring old mortals again or something and the Admin will tweak the system and then try it again sometime.

Remember what Cartman said folks: Nobody likes a Negative Nancy!