Int is good if you just plan to bash forever. If you want to get into PK, it's not as much of a factor.


Edit:

That being said, how about humans with evolved stats at high levels?

Strength : 13 Dexterity : 14 Constitution : 14
Intelligence : 15 Size : 12 Charisma : 12

Thats mine. Works well enough.

Celestines don't kill with damage.

And amissio is based on their mana, not yours.

What about Aslaran's herb balances and sip penalty? Aren't those very hindering?

Fighting is very much going to be a part of Aison's life, so race is rather crucial since I will not be coming into any major credits any time soon. All credits have to be earned in-character, which is difficult enough.

EDIT: I would like to add, though, that I want Aison's race to be a part of her character of roleplaying, too. I can already think of some things that would make her change race that have nothing to do with low constitution, but I am not much of a fan for people who choose race + class combos just so they can fight/grief (as I witnessed many times in Achaea, such as with Horkval Monk or Grook Magi combos).

So human is not a good race to go?

Human is a wonderful race to go to. You just want to be high up.

As far as PK goes, human is the same idea as Loboshigaru and Taurian, only worse. However, a human will actually be able to bash so levels help diminish the gap in tankiness. The int isn't completely useless in PK either. It helps after an inquisition on a low con target and in group fights, but extra health/regeneration/resistances are generally more useful.

Hmmm. Well, I still have my free reincarnation. I'm at 82 right now, guess I'll continue to bash as a human (so happy to have harmony back), and once I get much higher, I can always switch over to Aslaran or Mugwump.

Okay, so I wanna make sure I understand this.

Loboshigaru/Taurian are crappy arse Celestine bashers, but good PKers.
- Regen and tankiness makes them good

Humans are like the above, but worse. They, however, can fill the bad in with good by bashing to high levels.
- High HP from high levels makes them good. Bashing is good with their average mana.

Merian is a horrible race for Celestine because of the lack of defensive abilities for protection. But offense can be pretty good. FORGET fighting physical (warrior?) guilds. They are great bashers though.
- Good bashers because they have high int. Not too useful in combat with the lack of con, though.

Aslaran is good for both PK and hunting and among the best races for Celestine.
- Good HP and good mana for both.

Someone correct me?

Talkan and Neraka?

Really? I need to honors people more. Still don't think its a great race, though I guess it'd be alright for tarot.

Well, it really depends on your style.

Loboshigaru/Taurian are for if you want to be tanky to pull off inquisition/soulless kills, which I did.

Mugwump is for quick amissios to absolve.

Aslaran is for quick tarot, probably leading up to an absolve.

Merian is damage, but Celestines don't kill with damage.

Human is for bashing.

Don't forget furrikin for ROLL!!!

Ah, that puts it into perspective. What about bashing? Merians any good? Aslarans?

I think he means Aslaran's lead up to Soulless.

Aslarans fling tarots quite fast, so its much more like combatants with tarot guildskill choose them because they have much faster hindering capabilites which Celestines need in order to set up for a kill. Think of passive angel afflictions + fast double/masked tarot flings.

There's always faeling, but thats a horrible choice for a Celestine. You'd die easily. Aslaran speed is fast enough.

Its also good for bashing. They have +1 eq and 14 int.

They are very sexy too.

Are they good for bashing? I mean, after all, they're not that tanky.

Aslarans are crap for bashing, low con, sip penalties make it hard to stay alive even with healing scrolls and sparkleberries without numen or trans resilience.

They're good for tarots, obviously. Although, I think they're best suited for judgement kills and soulless, even with quicken it's tough to get enough amissio's all at once to absolve.

My favorite race is actually Mugwump, because while they have even lower constitution than Aslarans, with the Aslaran sip penalty, it's not too much different in the end. The faster equilibrium is great for bashing, you can usually kill things before they can kill you and since Soulless rubs use equilibrium and not balance-you can get almost all the rubs in under one quicken.

You won't be as fast with tarot as a mugwump, of course, but it won't make that much of a difference.

Mugwump is my personal favorite, anyway-but you'll have to weigh what you want against each race.

Also, if you won't be able to get Soulless and Inquisition, Absolve is going to be your best kill as a mugwump, and judgement as an aslaran (providing you have aeon in tarot)

Okay, so... for a Celestine who doesn't have a lot of credits, and studies Tarot, what is generally the best race?

Bashing up to 85 or so would probably be a must, but it's not totally crucial.