Christmas Credit Quandary

by Sintor

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Sintor2006-12-28 00:21:38
I've seen one in the month I've played, and it was more shorlen flirting with people by dreamweaving right outside our Ethereal exit.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Glom environment and the people but nothing ever happens. Yes I know the pending response is "make something happen", but isn't there supposed to be a conflict in place between the communes? It's more like catty wordplay than actual enmity.
Hazar2006-12-28 00:43:58
Welcome to the 'Glomdoring Combat Quandry'. We can't start fights, because we don't have the fighters to deal with it. But we can't keep fighters, because they don't have any fights. So they leave, and then we can't start fights.

It's been around for a while.
Shorlen2006-12-28 01:21:36
99% of Seren and Glom don't actually have anything against each other, EXCEPT for the "Hey! You raided me so I'm going to raid you!" cycle, which does down until someone from that 1% (like Kaervas) initiates it again. We need more people in that 1% sad.gif It just doesn't fit Shorlen's RP to raid Glom though except in retaliation.

I find the whole Mag vs Celest + Seren vs Glom crap to be absurdly cliche and dumb, myself. Plus, I hate druid vs druid. I'd FAR perfer fighting Celest, but since we surrendered, I can't anymore sad.gif
Shamarah2006-12-28 01:23:15
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Dec 27 2006, 08:21 PM) 366920

It just doesn't fit Shorlen's RP to raid Glom though except in retaliation.


I've never understood people who say this. If you really want to do something, and your RP is stopping you, change your RP. It's not that hard.
Shorlen2006-12-28 01:26:09
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Dec 27 2006, 08:23 PM) 366921
I've never understood people who say this. If you really want to do something, and your RP is stopping you, change your RP. It's not that hard.

What's stopping me more is the other point, about dumb cliches. Besides, this isn't TextQuake - I don't see a reason to fight just for the sake of fighting. I like having reasons that make sense. OMG IM GREEN! OMG THEYR PURPLE! only works for the drazi. ONG IM RED! OMG THEYR BLUE! only works for the japanese.
Shamarah2006-12-28 01:30:59
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Dec 27 2006, 08:26 PM) 366922

What's stopping me more is the other point, about dumb cliches. Besides, this isn't TextQuake - I don't see a reason to fight just for the sake of fighting. I like having reasons that make sense. OMG IM GREEN! OMG THEYR PURPLE! only works for the drazi. ONG IM RED! OMG THEYR BLUE! only works for the japanese.


True enough, I guess.

... you can always try to start the Second Seren-Celestian War ninja.gif
Shorlen2006-12-28 01:32:49
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Dec 27 2006, 08:30 PM) 366924
True enough, I guess.

... you can always try to start the Second Seren-Celestian War ninja.gif

... four Serens fought the first one. Me, Ixion, Krellan, and Derian. Guess how many of those are still Serenwilders? It'd be a rather one sided war if it was a full blown war. And by one sided, I mean there'd be a side with one person on it. Me.
Forren2006-12-28 01:33:38
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Dec 27 2006, 08:30 PM) 366924

True enough, I guess.

... you can always try to start the Second Seren-Celestian War ninja.gif


Do eeeeet. Doooo eeeeet.
Shorlen2006-12-28 01:34:41
Sorry if I'm being off topic above.

If you want to get into more PvP, join Mag. Celest, in my opinion, has the more fighters in general at the moment, and Celest is really irritating with all the snugglers that noone can seem to do anything about, and their no killing citizens laws.

Dunno what class to recommend, but if you're switching to a non-warrior guild, it'll take about 300 cr to get tri trans again.

But apart from that, you want to get trans planar for conglut.

EDIT: Oh, and if you switch to a non-warrior guild, you'll need to get Combat to Shieldparry, which is learned at Gifted. Also, if you're switching to Guardian, you'll need Discernment up to fabled if you want to go for wrack/absolve kills.
Aiakon2006-12-28 01:37:54
Stay Glom. Get together with Kaervas, go raid. Help Mag raid. Help Celest raid. But stay Glom... or go Mag.. don't go Celest. I'm tired, coherency is for the awake. Glom.
Shamarah2006-12-28 01:43:10
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Dec 27 2006, 08:32 PM) 366925

... four Serens fought the first one. Me, Ixion, Krellan, and Derian. Guess how many of those are still Serenwilders? It'd be a rather one sided war if it was a full blown war. And by one sided, I mean there'd be a side with one person on it. Me.


Err... Tuek? Athana? Laysus?

But yeah, you'd have to whip the rest of Serenwilde into supporting you.
Sintor2006-12-28 02:39:35
Assuming I didn't go Ur'Guard, what's a fun Mag class?
Clise2006-12-28 03:21:02
1st suggestion: Stay in Glomdoring, nothing can ever improve if everyone just keeps leaving the forest and never stay to help out.
2nd suggestion: If you do move, decide which RP of Celest or Magnagora is more appealing to you.
3rd suggestion: If you go to Magnagora, Ur' Guard means the least lesson loss for you. Geomancers are all about maintaining and timing of demesnes. Nihilists are all about being able to lock the person for instakills and utility.
4rd suggestion: If you go to Celest, Paladins means the least lesson loss for you. Aquamancers are the same as Geomancers and likewise Celestines for Nihilists.

Note about demesnes, you either love them or hate them. Its the most powerful tool in a group fight and whichever group controls it, has the upper hand in the fight.
Malarious2006-12-28 09:49:27
If you had to change locales... go Magnagora you will get lots of combat.. we seem to look for reasons t odo something (mainly boredom).. So come to us

If you came to us and didnt want Ur'Guard... Nihilists are fun but guardians are more... iffy than warriors. Geomancers are extremely useful on all planes.. including for raids. But its a matter of preference since if you like Axing it up stay warrior.. otherwise Marcalo went Cacophony...

Still changing locales is a big thing and IG Glom wouldnt be very happy.. they would live.. just not be happy.
ferlas2006-12-28 10:00:18
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Dec 27 2006, 10:56 PM) 366865

Planar --> Discipline --> Resilience is definitely the way to go.

Celest fights a lot. We're the dominant military force in the game right now.


He already has focus mind, so I'd learn resilience before I lernt trans discipline.

QUOTE(Hazar @ Dec 28 2006, 12:43 AM) 366910

Welcome to the 'Glomdoring Combat Quandry'. We can't start fights, because we don't have the fighters to deal with it. But we can't keep fighters, because they don't have any fights. So they leave, and then we can't start fights.

It's been around for a while.


I don't think glomdoring has a bad roleplay for fighters and I wouldn't say that is the reason that glomdoring loses a fair number of its fighters.

Shorlen2006-12-28 10:34:07
Trans discipline is more than twice as good as fabled discipline for focusbody speed. (1.0 seconds vs 2.1 seconds)
Sintor2006-12-28 20:57:49
How frowned upon would it be to help magnagora as a Glomdoring member? I would like to stay Glom, but who knows when the action will pick up there.
Daganev2006-12-28 21:34:07
QUOTE(Sintor @ Dec 28 2006, 12:57 PM) 367158

How frowned upon would it be to help magnagora as a Glomdoring member? I would like to stay Glom, but who knows when the action will pick up there.


Details are very important... best to ask such questions in game.

@ferlas: I don't think anyone said anything about the RP of glom... just the reality, that you can't start fights without having fighters to back up the actions of the fight starter.
Sintor2006-12-28 22:07:26
I asked here because in-game I'm sure the response is:

No dont attack Celest they will hold the Glom responsible and we will die.

Huggles
Daganev2006-12-28 22:08:07
QUOTE(Sintor @ Dec 28 2006, 02:07 PM) 367168

I asked here because in-game I'm sure the response is:

No dont attack Celest they will hold the Glom responsible and we will die.

Huggles


Its not smart to assume.

That is, ooc you just want to pk, and thats fine. IC thats obviously not fine. How you ask, and what you ask, and what you -exactly- plan on doing makes all the diference in the world. Its why we call lusternia a game. smile.gif