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Anarias2006-12-28 22:28:48
QUOTE(Sintor @ Dec 28 2006, 03:07 PM) 367168

No dont attack anyone they will hold everyone else responsible and we will die.

Fixed.
Sintor2006-12-28 22:40:56
QUOTE(daganev @ Dec 28 2006, 04:08 PM) 367169

Its not smart to assume.

That is, ooc you just want to pk, and thats fine. IC thats obviously not fine. How you ask, and what you ask, and what you -exactly- plan on doing makes all the diference in the world. Its why we call lusternia a game. smile.gif


No, I don't "just want to pk". However, I am not going to even bother attempting to roleplay the situation if it is hopelessly motivated by the OOC fear of players who don't want to fight. Do you see what I'm saying yet? I am asking if it is worth the effort to pursue or is it going to be shot down on the premise of assumed neutrality for lack of backbone?

Edit: This is all concerning a satisfactory scenario wherein I stay a citizen of Glom and help to lift that fighter population up a bit. As I said before, I would prefer to stay in Glom, as I enjoy the people and the atmosphere. My only problem RP wise would be that I will never go past GR3 because I refuse to ask Hyrtakos who the King of the Redcaps is and I similarly refuse to go around greeting npcs until one of their scripts engages and tells me.
Ashteru2006-12-28 23:35:06
QUOTE(Sintor @ Dec 28 2006, 11:40 PM) 367180

Edit: This is all concerning a satisfactory scenario wherein I stay a citizen of Glom and help to lift that fighter population up a bit. As I said before, I would prefer to stay in Glom, as I enjoy the people and the atmosphere. My only problem RP wise would be that I will never go past GR3 because I refuse to ask Hyrtakos who the King of the Redcaps is and I similarly refuse to go around greeting npcs until one of their scripts engages and tells me.

That guy on Ethereal. Looks realy awesome. Glumki, maybe.
Daganev2006-12-28 23:48:47
QUOTE(Sintor @ Dec 28 2006, 02:40 PM) 367180

No, I don't "just want to pk". However, I am not going to even bother attempting to roleplay the situation if it is hopelessly motivated by the OOC fear of players who don't want to fight.



That is not the motivation at all.

Glomdoring has a small player base. As I found out from my little GM experiment, there is about an 8 hour window when "nobody" in the guild is logged in. That 8 hour window means that any attacks made on a large scale are easily retaliated against with no players around to do anything about it. That means basically, you log in, raid, fight some people, log out, log in and find all the guards and NPCs dead tongue.gif

I remember at one point we tried finding a similar hour when nobody in Serenwilde was logged in, and found that such an hour didn't exist, let alone 4 or 8 like Glomdoring has.

I don't know if thats true anymore, as the IC/IG reasons for not fighting are different than when the commune first opened, but thats the basic impression people get and the only "ooc fear" about it.
Anarias2006-12-29 00:07:32
There are quite a few times when there is a similar lack of people around in Serenwilde and several times there would be raids on the Hart Aspects during those times. Its a problem for everyone really.
Sintor2006-12-29 00:14:20
It's an MMO problem with destroyable assets. There's always going to be an hour or two of vulnerability.
Daganev2006-12-29 00:34:59
*sigh* Like I said, I don't know about the present situation, as I myself can't log in in the middle of the night anymore, however, in the old days, when I actually had access to zmud, I tried raiding a few times when nobody was around, and anytime I ever did anything I'd get at least 3 people flowing to me one of them bringing guards.

apparently serenwilde doesn't have that type of population anymore.
Hazar2006-12-29 00:39:37
If you want to talk about fighting, find a way to bring it up with Veyda when I get back on New Year's. He/I has/have a lot of experience handling these kind of questions.
Ildaudid2006-12-29 00:49:18
QUOTE(Sintor @ Dec 28 2006, 03:57 PM) 367158

How frowned upon would it be to help magnagora as a Glomdoring member? I would like to stay Glom, but who knows when the action will pick up there.


You cannot fight along Magnagora, but you can fight with Celest for some reason (but I think that was changed)

edit - Shayle says you can kill anyone enemied to Glomdoring from Celest but that is all.

Glomdoring has so much potential if they didn't have all these restrictions. If they would not put so many restricitions on themselves, they may actually get more fighters to join.


For one, they ration power so harsh, it makes it even hard to raid or fight. Then you can only raid/defend against Serenwilde, under "special" conditions....

I mean I woulda joined Glom a while ago if I could hunt Celest at will, and join Mag on raiding parties. But unfortunately you can't do that.

I really wish Glomdoring would stop being so scared of conflict. If they actually participated alot more, it would draw more people to their commune.

They are like Switzerland with really cool skillsets..... which since you can't use them the way you like, it restricts the player's gameplay and makes even being there not fun....
Ashteru2006-12-29 01:01:04
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Dec 29 2006, 01:49 AM) 367209

For one, they ration power so harsh, it makes it even hard to raid or fight. Then you can only raid/defend against Serenwilde, under "special" conditions....

Wrong. tongue.gif
Exeryte2006-12-29 02:28:52
Yeah, it was moved up from 15 reserves a day to 25 awhile ago.
Shamarah2006-12-29 02:34:42
Celest and Glomdoring are allied. Attack Mag or Seren.
Clise2006-12-29 03:50:58
Stop being so single minded purpose Ildy tongue.gif Anyway, there's still the stigma over most of the older members who can remember the daily endless unstoppable raids upon them. While it has been some time, psychological damage doesn't really heal like with a snap of the fingers. As it is, there are already some conflicts at the very least, but it will take a while before you see anything on the scale of what Celest and Magnagora are fighting each other for.

Also there is no way in hell would a city ever alienate both communes, its a suicidal thing as without potions, you know how well you are going to fight biggrin.gif A war of attrition will leech the city dry, since its still possible to fight without enchantments compared to fighting without potions.

Also to people who wants to raid Celest from Glomdoring, you can do so. Just be prepared to accept the consequences. Until the IG political climate shifts, there won't be changes in the policy.
silimaur2006-12-30 23:06:33
sintor if you want combat in glomdoring, goto earth and hunt wait for someone to ask for the essence or something similar and say no, i keep hearing about people annoyed that they get attacked by mags for those reasons
Ashteru2006-12-30 23:12:07
QUOTE(silimaur @ Dec 31 2006, 12:06 AM) 367888

sintor if you want combat in glomdoring, goto earth and hunt wait for someone to ask for the essence or something similar and say no, i keep hearing about people annoyed that they get attacked by mags for those reasons

And get enemied to Mag. Yeah, great deal. tongue.gif
Sintor2006-12-30 23:14:45
I think you missed the part where I didn't want to kick the underdog.
Forren2006-12-31 00:50:44
QUOTE(Sintor @ Dec 30 2006, 06:14 PM) 367893

I think you missed the part where I didn't want to kick the underdog.


Celest and Magnagora are pretty evenly matched right now. If you want to join and want more fighting, I'd suggest you join one of the two. (I'm a bit biased towards Celest.)
Anisu2006-12-31 02:00:18
QUOTE(Sintor @ Dec 31 2006, 12:14 AM) 367893

I think you missed the part where I didn't want to kick the underdog.

Magnagora is not the underdog in any way shape or form.

the closest thing to an underdog is Glomdoring, and even that isn't true anymore
Sintor2006-12-31 03:29:32
Earlier in the thread it was said that in Magnagora v Celest, Magnagora is typically the underdog. I had heard Glomdoring was an underdog and that's why I started there, however there isn't really a Glomdoring vs Serenwilde conflict to be an underdog in... to speak of.
Forren2006-12-31 04:01:32
QUOTE(Sintor @ Dec 30 2006, 10:29 PM) 367937

Earlier in the thread it was said that in Magnagora v Celest, Magnagora is typically the underdog. I had heard Glomdoring was an underdog and that's why I started there, however there isn't really a Glomdoring vs Serenwilde conflict to be an underdog in... to speak of.


Yesterday we dusted a Magnagoran shrine. Today, we were constantly being defiled by Magnagora. Magnagora isn't the underdog. Just shifts day to day.