Unknown2007-01-10 03:44:23
So after what seemed like an explosive climax to the Seren-Celest cold war standoff, followed in 15 minutes by the largest cooldown known to the Gods, I thought I'd come to the forums and post something.
Following in Mags footsteps, I want to complain about how OP flow is. It makes raiding impossible. I don't know how foresters can enjoy their raids, since all you have to do is grab a group of zerglings and flow and mass maim those who are raiding. So some of us thought, well what if it had like a room radius. I.e. if you could only flow say 5 rooms adjacent into someone. Being able to jump the instant a raider sets foot to gank them seems not conducive to combat (which we know means something, cause we had moving into guards blocked.)
So, I ask the forum community, what do you think about flow?
Following in Mags footsteps, I want to complain about how OP flow is. It makes raiding impossible. I don't know how foresters can enjoy their raids, since all you have to do is grab a group of zerglings and flow and mass maim those who are raiding. So some of us thought, well what if it had like a room radius. I.e. if you could only flow say 5 rooms adjacent into someone. Being able to jump the instant a raider sets foot to gank them seems not conducive to combat (which we know means something, cause we had moving into guards blocked.)
So, I ask the forum community, what do you think about flow?
Astraea2007-01-10 03:46:18
I like flow how it is, thankyouverymuch.
Shorlen2007-01-10 03:46:26
You know what's funny? I didn't flow to you. I walked there.
EDIT: With most of "the serens" following, that is.
EDIT: With most of "the serens" following, that is.
Vix2007-01-10 03:47:49
Flow has been nerfed twice - both huge changes. If you were to nerf it a third time, we definitely need something in exchange. The whole of Nature is pretty useless.
Unknown2007-01-10 03:50:58
I think the problem is that flow is far too limited. It should definitely be worldwide and work in any environment again, for balance sake.
Flow is so UP.
Flow is so UP.
Shorlen2007-01-10 03:53:03
QUOTE(Vix @ Jan 9 2007, 10:47 PM) 371297
Flow has been nerfed twice - both huge changes. If you were to nerf it a third time, we definitely need something in exchange. The whole of Nature is pretty useless.
But Totems isn't, and noone with Nature doesn't have Totems.
QUOTE(Avaer @ Jan 9 2007, 10:50 PM) 371301
I think the problem is that flow is far too limited. It should definitely be worldwide and work in any environment again, for balance sake.
Flow is so UP.
Flow is so UP.
Shiri2007-01-10 03:53:07
Trueheal/hailstorm first. MAYBE flow later.
Reiha2007-01-10 03:54:17
I don't see what's wrong with flow, nor do I know much about it. Could you elaborate? What are the conditions you can use it, and does a monolith or something stop it?
Diamondais2007-01-10 03:55:33
QUOTE(Reiha @ Jan 9 2007, 10:54 PM) 371305
I don't see what's wrong with flow, nor do I know much about it. Could you elaborate? What are the conditions you can use it, and does a monolith or something stop it?
Must be in the same forest, must be forest, must be in the same area.
Anarias2007-01-10 03:56:01
QUOTE
This post is an pristine example of a fine "run to ze forums!" post. Mag has something "horribly horrendous" done to them by the evil Celest. Mag DASHES to the forums to post, and of course makes the utmost necessary reference to trueheal being so overpowered that - heck I won't go on. Then people gibber on the boards that this is ludicrous, although this has been the way it's always been, and Mag has used this whole fully embued items blow up rooms deal to wipe out Terentia shrines (last time on Cancer before wildnodes). Did Celest run to the forums to squeal for a change? Hrm definitely not.
I'm rather tired of this trend that has been happening. If we make changes every single time someone runs to the forums because some "grave injustice" has been performed on them, then we'll eventually end up where no one can do anything to anyone.
The author of the above quote? Neraka.
This thread is a pristine example of a fine "run to ze forums!" thread.
Reiha2007-01-10 04:01:13
In his defense...
Following in Mags footsteps, I want to complain about how OP flow is.
He's following in our footsteps
QUOTE(Neraka @ Jan 9 2007, 07:44 PM) 371293
Following in Mags footsteps, I want to complain about how OP flow is.
He's following in our footsteps
Sylphas2007-01-10 04:02:05
So because we have totems, we can have an entire crap skillset? I ABSOLUTELY LOATHE that kind of thinking, especially when it's from someone who has the damn skill. Please tell me you were being sarcastic.
Ildaudid2007-01-10 04:03:22
QUOTE(Avaer @ Jan 9 2007, 10:50 PM) 371301
I think the problem is that flow is far too limited. It should definitely be worldwide and work in any environment again, for balance sake.
Flow is so UP.
Flow is fine, so is moonbeam, so don't try the moonbeam angle either
Vix2007-01-10 04:03:46
Not to mention Seren/Ebonguard have both Totems and Knighthood which are not useless.
And just because I want to, I'm bringing it up: we need willowisp back please?
And just because I want to, I'm bringing it up: we need willowisp back please?
Unknown2007-01-10 04:06:04
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jan 9 2007, 10:53 PM) 371304
Trueheal/hailstorm first. MAYBE flow later.
What's wrong with hailstorm?
Ashteru2007-01-10 04:08:02
You know, Faethorn is a bitch to flow around. You got, around our archway, sometimes infestations, around Serens you get that ethereal forest, and in the middle is that third, weird forest. Really annoying.
Narsrim2007-01-10 04:08:24
QUOTE(Neraka @ Jan 9 2007, 10:44 PM) 371293
So after what seemed like an explosive climax to the Seren-Celest cold war standoff, followed in 15 minutes by the largest cooldown known to the Gods, I thought I'd come to the forums and post something.
Following in Mags footsteps, I want to complain about how OP flow is. It makes raiding impossible. I don't know how foresters can enjoy their raids, since all you have to do is grab a group of zerglings and flow and mass maim those who are raiding. So some of us thought, well what if it had like a room radius. I.e. if you could only flow say 5 rooms adjacent into someone. Being able to jump the instant a raider sets foot to gank them seems not conducive to combat (which we know means something, cause we had moving into guards blocked.)
So, I ask the forum community, what do you think about flow?
Maybe I'm mistaken, but didn't you complain in another thread about people running to forums and crying about Trueheal? Tsk. Tsk.
Elysiana2007-01-10 04:10:06
Flow's already been significantly nerfed in Faethorn. I was walking around for the most part rather than flowing, except while within Shorlen's demesne, because it wasn't the same kind of forest.
Unknown2007-01-10 04:10:20
Flow's fine, since it's limited as is to you being in a forest, the same forest as the target flowee, and same area. Besides, don't you have to recover equilbrium after flowing?
Ildaudid2007-01-10 04:10:30
QUOTE(Shou @ Jan 9 2007, 11:06 PM) 371318
What's wrong with hailstorm?
Don't open up that wound Shou