To be honest, I'm still a little sore about the way the Serenwilde has been in the past, and I apologize for taking it a bit too far in this case and accusing you personally, when you haven't held the position for long (and I don't mean Nejii either, I respect most of the decisions he made, even if I disagreed with them). However, it seems that all of your concerns have been addressed by me before, and now by Krellan directly, and yet you still insist on attacking him, both in an OOC forum and IC. I am also questioning whether you truly read his post before responding again, given that he quoted specifically the prices that he was offering to other Serenwilders, so you should have seen the numbers of what he's offering.

So, to sum it up again, you're right, I've probably been a bit overly offensive, because I see this same kind of thing come up again and again with the Serenwilde, and it still bothers me even if I don't live there. However, I don't believe it's an unreasonable deduction that you have not truly been reading what has been said, but you are instead going off of your own personal dislike for Krellan, and even taking it to an OOC level. I'll go back to my original suggestion: think these things over carefully.

RE to Xenthos, I like the third idea. I think all herbalists should be able to (at some cost) restore the room so they can harvest through it. It shouldn't be as easy as it is for nature users to raise guard, since it makes IC sense that the nature users would be more adept at such things, but removing it should be possible for any herbalist.

I really like that disrupt ability (Make it in highmagic maybe so every org gets it, but cities get more? + Herbalist would need a highmagic friend to do it... a bit more interesting than "one man army" thing) and yeah. wormwood would work well. A: PEople just have to PLANT the blasted lands and we'd havea fair bit, but it would also make guard still, you know, useful, cause you could do it more then you could disrupt. That my opinion -hides-

Don't forget that wormwood can grow in abundance on Spectre Island.



(Hey! Stay away from my herbs! )

Because of the importance of nature guard for protecting against hibernation, I vastly perfer my solution, as written on the envoy wiki. If other envoys perfer other suggestions that were mentioned here, feel free to comment on my suggestion.

Enough people have decided that this imbalance is just that - an imbalance - for something to be done about it. I don't see a strong need to continue this conversation here, especially with the personal attacks being thrown back and forth between Krellan and Elysiana.

Sorry about that. You do know it was hibernation month right? and yeah it probably made more sense to ask now that I'm thinking about it. so Sorry all the same. If you want to sell it, Krellan's really only got one term he wants that you can talk to him about and arrange times to harvest. I think I already mentioned it too

and my commune price is about 35 per though I am planning a donation to all the guilds in Seren soon. If I stocked a shop I'd sell at 30 per likely. if you look at the herbs and all the prices in general everyone would agree that sparkleberry is the most valuable, and therefore should be priced that way. look at some of the cheap herbalists ads Iasmos is selling MERBLOOM not sparkleberry but merbloom at 35 per. who even uses that!?? that's only useful to alchemists with the insomnia ability. It's absurd to even try to sell sparkleberry any lower, especially when people add in discounts. Of course if we wanted to we could actually nature guard all of water and steal the merbloom supply from cities to, though I'm not sure what they sell it at and they dont' have too much use for it other than selling it at high prices to us since we're not allowed there.

Just because you're willing to sell to Serens cheaply doesn't make it any better. IC, sure, it helps, OOC, not in the least.

out of character and in character it's reasonable, it's 40 per. it's 5 gold more than merbloom is being sold at and merbloom is not nearly in any sense at all as valuable or obtainable.

Whats your defination of nature?

and since when does game balance and fairness take a back seat to realism?

I sell it at 25, which fuels my revenge for the guarding knowing that I'm completely gouging out the eyeballs of your business.

REVENGE!

And I sell merbloom..for 20. I don't like overpriced herbs.

Merblooms valuable to alchemists, and its hard to get because the water plane is treated like garbage or at least it was when I last needed any of it.

oh I know what you sell at. I saw your ad!

I think you should go back and read things more closely yourself. Krellan at that point had not stated what price he would be selling to Serens at. (Said price is 5gp higher than what I've been getting it at for some time, incidentally. So no, for me, it is not a "low" price.)

But I will thank you for apologizing, and will try to drop this now - I've said probably more than I really need to have said on this already!

just admit selling merbloom higher than sparkleberry doesn't make sense at all

Freely admitted! Last time I really looked closely, merbloom was around 24.

look now at Iasmos' ad. it's 35 per and sparkleberry 30 per.

That means I don't buy merbloom from him. My prices are based on 20 per for merbloom. And I can just imagine what people would say if I started charging 28k for a frost keg!

so do it! as herb prices rise you charge more for alchemy! that's why all alchemists should charge even if herbs are provided.

Mostly we do, especially with powerstone costs to consider. And yes, I'll raise my prices as my costs rise, I just haven't needed to yet.

Merbloom can be a total bitch to get sometimes, and the lower demand makes the risk and hassle much less worth it. There's good reasons for it cost so much. Prices aren't just based on value to the customer.

are you kidding? sparkleberry? requires more skill. requires nexus in planar if you're not a city person. requires aggressive creatures and open pk. requires timing with spheres. insanity?