Beauty Seal Contest

by Veonira

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Unknown2007-01-21 20:42:04
It's probably based on fairness more than anything else. Especially if the descriptions were blind to the creators, to prevent bias.
Gandal2007-01-21 20:42:40
But it's...good...
Unknown2007-01-21 20:43:21
QUOTE(Phred @ Jan 21 2007, 12:42 PM) 375786
It's probably based on fairness more than anything else. Especially if the descriptions were blind to the creators, to prevent bias.


But the cartel that submitted it knew better. And now you've got someone laughing their ass of that their newbie alt--who they're probably never going to play--won.
Verithrax2007-01-21 20:44:47
Because alts in this game aren't treated like newbies. I've seen alts - not even alts of particularly significant people - Get city and guild positions at an alarming rate without working for it, because, being alts, they could 'be trusted'.
Shorlen2007-01-21 23:21:52
QUOTE(Estarra @ Jan 21 2007, 03:30 PM) 375781
FYI, we decided to do a blind judging to be as objective as possible, thus none of the judges knew who submitted what, and the admin who did know didn't judge. There was an uproar when it was revealed that a newbie won, and a huge debate on whether a newbie should receive the seal or not (you may have noticed a strangely long delay before winners were announced). Ultimately, since it was won legitimately, we decided to go ahead and allow it. Since it was a commune cartel who submitted the design, this actually bolstered the legitimacy of the candidate.

This was a fine decision to make, but Amarysse hasn't logged in in three days now, and she was only a few days old to begin with. What if she never does? Shouldn't the seal be given to a player who actually plays, since it's such an important part of Lusternian history? That's my only concern, that she doesn't even come around for the event...
Shryke2007-01-22 00:13:03
I agrees shorlen
Kharaen2007-01-22 00:23:17
I don't mind my account being credited -700cr and getting the Medallion instead. The fame of being marked by the medallion of Beauty (meaning best designer), if not godhood, is something Kharaen would value more then credits.

Like the others though, kind of worried that this character's going to be deleted (noobs get deleted after not logging in for so long?) or never logs in. Maybe she's reading these posts and can make a post of her own.

I do appreiciate that it was a blind judging though, that made things fair. The judges would have had no idea that it was a novice design, and it WAS a really good tapestry.
Shiri2007-01-22 02:23:34
I wouldn't like to call this Wildecraft's fault (and stop pretending it's Serenwilde's, we had nothing to do with it dry.gif)...the blind judging was a good way to go about it and I'm glad Estarra did it, and hopes she did it again despite the fact it backfired ridiculously this one time. But Wildecraft couldn't've known this would happen either.

Whoever the alt is of, I hope you're happy. mellow.gif
Genos2007-01-22 02:31:45
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jan 21 2007, 09:23 PM) 375971
But Wildecraft couldn't've known this would happen either.


Um, they were the one who chose her in the first place. Obviously they knew full well what they were doing if they voted in a referendum.
Verithrax2007-01-22 04:20:43
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jan 22 2007, 12:23 AM) 375971
I wouldn't like to call this Wildecraft's fault (and stop pretending it's Serenwilde's, we had nothing to do with it dry.gif)...the blind judging was a good way to go about it and I'm glad Estarra did it, and hopes she did it again despite the fact it backfired ridiculously this one time. But Wildecraft couldn't've known this would happen either.

Whoever the alt is of, I hope you're happy. mellow.gif

I'm more concerned about her not being anyone's alt.
Shiri2007-01-22 04:22:09
I considered that, but I doubt a level 1 novice (i.e didn't go through the portal tour) would have a clue about submitting a design anything, or the seal events...much less if she never logs in.
Hazar2007-01-22 04:53:05
QUOTE(Kharaen d @ Jan 21 2007, 06:23 PM) 375926
I don't mind my account being credited -700cr and getting the Medallion instead. The fame of being marked by the medallion of Beauty (meaning best designer), if not godhood, is something Kharaen would value more then credits.

Like the others though, kind of worried that this character's going to be deleted (noobs get deleted after not logging in for so long?) or never logs in. Maybe she's reading these posts and can make a post of her own.

I do appreiciate that it was a blind judging though, that made things fair. The judges would have had no idea that it was a novice design, and it WAS a really good tapestry.


You mean best designer who decided to submit something, and had the time to do so. Don't get carried away, now. Some of us had both age and time restraints to consider.
Gelo2007-01-22 05:50:58
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Jan 22 2007, 02:20 PM) 376018
I'm more concerned about her not being anyone's alt.


Not likely. Level 1 novice who knows how lusternian design and the item description process sounds like an experienced player to me.
Kharaen2007-01-22 06:27:28
QUOTE(Hazar @ Jan 21 2007, 11:53 PM) 376030
You mean best designer who decided to submit something, and had the time to do so. Don't get carried away, now. Some of us had both age and time restraints to consider.


The demonic lyre wasn't a new design. People could of submitted old stuff and had a chance to win tongue.gif But being marked by Beauty means you were leet enough to get the Seal, that out of all the people that did submit, you were the best. And will be forever marked so.

Just don't bring up the seal IG with Kharaen. It will totally bum her out, and send her into a fit of crying.
Hazar2007-01-22 06:30:24
QUOTE(Kharaen d @ Jan 22 2007, 12:27 AM) 376050
Just don't bring up the seal IG with Kharaen. It will totally bum her out, and send her into a fit of crying.


I need to go do that now, thanks.
Kharaen2007-01-22 06:34:06
QUOTE(Hazar @ Jan 22 2007, 01:30 AM) 376051
I need to go do that now, thanks.


Yeah, like THAT will get her to convert tongue.gif
Shryke2007-01-22 06:40:57
Crying is like a segway into Glom, silly noob
Unknown2007-01-22 06:52:40
Well she could win with Grace of Innocence, who's going to attack her? tongue.gif

Seriously though, I'd like the character to be made permanent or something if she doesn't log in again. I dislike the idea of her being deleted due to inactivity and if someone tries to honours her a few months after the contest they only get a 'There is no such person' (Thinking about it, that would actually be quite ironic. Lusternia has no beauty. ) dry.gif
Unknown2007-01-22 07:12:13
I don't mind that a novice won, it's kinda nice to have the established players shown up from time to time.
Shiri2007-01-22 07:18:02
A novice is one thing, and if it were a legitimate novice there wouldn't be anything to worry about, really. It's more that it's an alt that's probably never going to see any play again. wacko.gif So it's a waste.