What if history were different...

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Richter2007-01-25 07:39:32
Actually, I think the Ur'Guard were the elite, and the paladins were the... I don't know, not elite? -That's- why he took them up.

And we already had one alternate reality game come out... it was called Aetolia. tongue.gif
Genevieve2007-01-25 07:45:57
He took up the Ur'Guard because the Ur'Guard revered the Undead, and he was one. He had a willing army of zealots at his fingertips without having to convince anyone of anything. Thye Ur'Guard with him up in the Supra plane bowed down right away upon seeing him undeadified.
Shiri2007-01-25 07:58:05
QUOTE(Genevieve @ Jan 25 2007, 07:45 AM) 377149
He took up the Ur'Guard because the Ur'Guard revered the Undead, and he was one. He had a willing army of zealots at his fingertips without having to convince anyone of anything. Thye Ur'Guard with him up in the Supra plane bowed down right away upon seeing him undeadified.


That doesn't make any sense, because he wasn't undead until he was already up there. And he didn't know he was going to become one until he did either.
Unknown2007-01-25 08:00:30
ur'Guard were the peacekeeping force, Paladins were the elite guard. He took ur'Guard I believe because he went through Stone of Truth, that or he trusted them more.
Astraea2007-01-25 08:01:46
Erm, most likely, he took up the Ur'Guard because they were the warriors of Magnagora, the city that they were leaving from. They probably had in depth contracts and treaties and agreements, you can use the Stone of Truth if you use the Ur'Guard of Magnagora for your bodyguards, blahblah glory blahblah money blahblah.
Richter2007-01-25 08:28:33
QUOTE(Genevieve @ Jan 24 2007, 11:45 PM) 377149
He took up the Ur'Guard because the Ur'Guard revered the Undead, and he was one. He had a willing army of zealots at his fingertips without having to convince anyone of anything. Thye Ur'Guard with him up in the Supra plane bowed down right away upon seeing him undeadified.


He didn't become undead until he was there... so how does that story work?
Arel2007-01-25 09:41:10
the ur'Guard were the elite warriors. The Paladins was ther guardians of Celest. Why take guardians of Celest to not-Celest places? Take the elite guard instead!

TAINT SERENWILDE. We'll see who has the moral high ground then! tongue.gif
Anarias2007-01-25 09:43:59
QUOTE(Arel @ Jan 25 2007, 02:41 AM) 377171
the ur'Guard were the elite warriors. The Paladins was ther guardians of Celest. Why take guardians of Celest to not-Celest places? Take the elite guard instead!

TAINT SERENWILDE. We'll see who has the moral high ground then! tongue.gif


Two tainted forests would be massive overkill! whistling.gif

I do firmly believe in razing the Serenwilde to the ground and making it not a player org though.


...but that is another topic altogether!
Aiakon2007-01-25 10:53:13
QUOTE(Astraea @ Jan 25 2007, 08:01 AM) 377152
Erm, most likely, he took up the Ur'Guard because they were the warriors of Magnagora, the city that they were leaving from. They probably had in depth contracts and treaties and agreements, you can use the Stone of Truth if you use the Ur'Guard of Magnagora for your bodyguards, blahblah glory blahblah money blahblah.


Where does it say that?

The Ur'Guard were, as I understand it, not Magnagora specific - they were a basin-wide force with a headquarters in Shallach, under the Emperor's jurisdiction.
Rylan2007-01-25 16:15:23
QUOTE(Avaer @ Jan 24 2007, 06:44 PM) 377009
I'd love to have Serenwilde tainted. I suspect the existing culture of ancient and secretive mysticism, long forgotten memory and fae-worship would be corrupted into absolute pride and individual freedom no matter the cost, complete refusal to acknowledge the past in favour of unhindered opportunism and political maneuvering in the present, and the abandonment of worship and communion with the nature spirits in favour of a jealous hoarding of what will instead be viewed as ignorant children, following Moon's desire to control as many as she can get her grubby little fingers on.
Actually, on second thought, all that would really need to change is a few descriptions. halo.gif

Yeah the couple tries to correct this have been met with quite a bit of hostility... Not that I don't love it there, but it does seem that people have lost sight of their roots. Go read the history people! Actually speaking of history... Is there an in game place/library were the history of the gods and taint wars is recorded? Like the actual text from the website? And if not, is there a good IC way to refer people to the website?
Daganev2007-01-25 16:19:42
Ur'guard were in charge of quelling Village revolts. They used the Ur'passages of Shallach to get from village to village quickly.


The Paladins were in charge of keeping the palace safe.

Which was more "elite" would depend on your definition, and after reading the game of thrones, I'm pretty sure that definition depends on which group you were with : )
Diamondais2007-01-25 16:20:34
QUOTE(Rylan @ Jan 25 2007, 11:15 AM) 377223
Yeah the couple tries to correct this have been met with quite a bit of hostility... Not that I don't love it there, but it does seem that people have lost sight of their roots. Go read the history people! Actually speaking of history... Is there an in game place/library were the history of the gods and taint wars is recorded? Like the actual text from the website? And if not, is there a good IC way to refer people to the website?

The Library on the Peak should have them, I know Serenwilde has (at least most of) them in their library.

And yes, some people have lost sight of what Serenwilde is. Some people have just lost hope.
Mire2007-01-25 18:11:42
What I find really interesting is that Magnagora (do correct me if I'm wrong) didn't seem to have a dominating race before the Viscanti were formed. Celest was predominantly Merian, Hallifax Trill and Lucidian, and Gaudiguch had the Dracnari..but in collections of Magnagoran history, I find a rather assorted range of races. I would assume perhaps Mugwumps might have made up a good portion of the city, but it seems more racially varied than any of the others.

So..if Celest was the one to become tainted, presumably forming some sort of Merian-based Viscanti, would Magnagora be a place of racial tolerance and diversity?
Unknown2007-01-25 18:47:24
Just wondering but would the Ebonguard be called the Evenguard(for evening) if Glom wasn't tainted?
Daganev2007-01-25 19:22:35
QUOTE(MrShrimp @ Jan 25 2007, 10:47 AM) 377290
Just wondering but would the Ebonguard be called the Evenguard(for evening) if Glom wasn't tainted?


Who knows, the Ebonguard name was created by its first guildmaster. I just happened to steal it from the popular list of names on the forums at the time because I was sort of shocked.
Arel2007-01-25 19:48:06
QUOTE(daganev @ Jan 25 2007, 02:22 PM) 377297
Who knows, the Ebonguard name was created by its first guildmaster. I just happened to steal it from the popular list of names on the forums at the time because I was sort of shocked.


that rocks biggrin.gif
Astraea2007-01-25 20:31:55
QUOTE(Aiakon)
The Ur'Guard were, as I understand it, not Magnagora specific - they were a basin-wide force with a headquarters in Shallach, under the Emperor's jurisdiction.


After re-reading everything, yeah, looks like that's correct. So that means Magnagora only had two guilds, then? Celest was metagaming even then! bruce_h4h.gif
Diamondais2007-01-25 20:37:00
QUOTE(Astraea @ Jan 25 2007, 03:31 PM) 377315
After re-reading everything, yeah, looks like that's correct. So that means Magnagora only had two guilds, then? Celest was metagaming even then! bruce_h4h.gif

Magnagora was the only City by the looks of it that didn't, Serenwilde didn't as well. Might not have been one in Gloriana. No idea on Ackleberry.
Astraea2007-01-25 20:41:48
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Might not have been one in Gloriana


Definitely no warriors. Only Raven Circle and Night Coven. We were so OP though, we didn't need no stinking warriors.
Ixion2007-01-25 20:42:52
QUOTE(daganev @ Jan 25 2007, 11:19 AM) 377225
Ur'guard were in charge of quelling Village revolts. They used the Ur'passages of Shallach to get from village to village quickly.
The Paladins were in charge of keeping the palace safe.

Which was more "elite" would depend on your definition, and after reading the game of thrones, I'm pretty sure that definition depends on which group you were with : )


The Ur'Gates (not ur'passages) had a more important eventuality by and by.