Melanchthon2007-01-28 18:20:31
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1. What is your main character's nation?
Celest
2. What is your nation's fundamental purpose? Use no more than one sentence.
The destruction of the Soulless.
3. What is your nation's definition of Nature?
Nature is what is natural. Natural are all things, ensouled and unliving, created by Dynara, and all things that follow from them---for what is created by nature is natural itself; the rain and the wind of the sky are thus natural, as are the dams of beavers, as are the civilizations of men. The First Ones, being living yet without soul, are the only abominations, the only things Dynara wished destroyed yet that still exist. They are thus unnatural, as are all things that follow from them.
4. Will your nation tolerate the existence of Nature?
The preservation and continuance of nature is the only purpose of that which is natural. There are those, however, who are blind to the Great Design even though they live within it, who do not recognize that change is inherent and essential to Nature; these people call some change good because it is familiar to them (and thus not change at all), and other change bad because it is unfamiliar to them, unrealizing that change, as an aspect of Nature, is beyond right and wrong---it simply is, and it is simply because it is necessary. It is ignorance of this that shatters the unity we are intended by Nature to share, and it is this act of sundering that is the only evil among men.
5. What is your nation's definition of the Light?
The Light is the name given to the code of thought and behavior necessary to all lasting union and community, regardless of how the form of that unity evolves over time. It is thus the expression of the Creator's will among men, the only true guide to living our lives---all else is the rotted fruit of ignorance, fit only to be returned to the soil.
6. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the Light?
Obviously.
7. What is your nation's definition of the Taint?
The manifestation of the abomination Kethuru, it is an abomination itself. As evidenced by the fate of Shallamar, the more a thing is influenced by the Taint, the furthur from the will of the Creator it strays, the more unnatural it becomes.
8. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the Taint?
The Taint retains the essence of the Soulless and must therefore be erradicated. It must be remembered, however, that within every tainted thing resides a natural creation that has been afflicted against its will...such a thing deserves help and compassion; its destruction must always be seen as a last resort.
9. What is your nation's definition of Wyrd?
The Wyrd is the shape of the clay after the molding hand of the Taint has been removed; unnatural form given to natural essence.
10. Will your nation tolerate the existence of Wyrd?
No; affected by the Wyrd, the teachings of the Glomdoran spirits no longer follow the will of the Creator. The Wyrd represents a lesser perversion than the Taint, but as with all perversion, its necessary fate is the same: Reformation or Destruction.
11. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the undead?
Not at this time; arguments that undeath originated with Urlach (a natural entity) and is thus a natural state itself are compelling but not conclusively demonstrable. It may well be that the association of undeath with Taint and Wyrd is purely circumstantial, but lacking firm evidence of this, for now it is damning. It is worth noting that from the natural perspective, the cycle of life and death is illusory and founded in an arbitrary understanding of what constitutes alive and dead; it is an artificial constriction of the concept of creation and destruction, which form the only real cycle. The undead are created and they are subject to destruction; clearly, they are not in violation of the natural cycle. The undead are also ensouled, a further mark in their favor as natural, albeit bizarre, creatures. As stated, though, this is not enough to exonerate their existence; the same things can be said of a demon in the full grip of Taint.
12. Which nation has given yours the most reason to oppose them? Why? (Briefly)
As the seat of Taint within the Basin, clearly Magnagora.
13. Is there any nation with which you have little to no disagreement? If so, which?
Serenwilde; conflict with the Seren has always been due to misunderstanding. Sometimes, it is we who misunderstand them, sometimes they us, and sometimes we each simply misunderstand ourselves. Regardless, we both follow the will of the Creator as we know it, though we have long given it different names and each of our traditional perceptions of it fall short of its truth.
14. Are there any races which receive special treatment in your nation? Which and why? (Briefly)
None; our worth is judged by our actions, and every race has the same potential to act.
15. Does your nation believe individual freedom is more important than collective responsibility and duty?
Obedience to the Light is freedom. All notion that the good of the community differs from the good of the individual is founded in a mistaken concept of what is, in truth, good. Correct that mistake, and the dichotomy between the desires of the individual and the desires of the group evaporate.
16. Does your nation believe that its people or its physical and planar areas have more influence on its culture?
A nation is both its people and its territory...the shape of a person is the best fit they have found to their environment, and the shape of a group of people is the reflection of its individual constituents. The environment influences the character of the people, which in turn influence the degree of change the environment can cause...separating the concepts from each other loses both their meaning.
17. Does your nation believe that their Guides (Cosmic/Elemental Lords and Great Spirits) are infallible?
As regards what has been Created, the will of the Creator alone is infallible.
18. Does your nation believe that their Guides should override their mortal leadership?
Though not infallible, the Supernals are far beyond the capacity of mortalkind; it is not unthinkable that mortal leadership might perceive a situation more truly than do the Supernals at least once in a given eternity, but this is clearly the exception to the rule and would require truly unassailable reasoning.
19. Does your nation seek expansion and conquest? (Not counting swaying villages)
Like all things, we seek the true expression of the Creator's will, known to us as the Light; insofar as we follow the Creator's will in acquiring them, all aspects of Creation that we come to possess are by right ours to have---it is ridiculous to say that you have conquered what you already owned.
20. Finally, list three to five core beliefs unique to your nation alone that do not reference individual entities. (Not "we follow White Hart" for instance).
All beliefs are apprehensions of the Great Design; to call any of them unique in kind from the others is thus false. What separates them is only how much of Creation they have apprehended; for some, it is a part so small as to be nearly meaningless; for others, it is nearly the entire whole itself. The test for any is what it can explain; the less it can account for, and the less clear its accounts, the less of the truth it contains. The less truth in a belief, the more deleterious holding it is for both the individual and those they interact with, and the more we ought focus our effort on changing it---which forms the justification for violence when persuasion fails; violence does not resolve conflict, but it does kill it. In both cases the goal is met, though in violence, the potential of the whole is made less by the destruction of what could have been a part. Persuasion is therefore preferable, since it leads to a larger whole.
Yes, I realize that I am an old zealot long past his time if popular opinion counts for anything other than mass confusion, but this is how things are to me.
Ixion2007-01-28 18:47:11
You must have at least 5 hours in realms per week to post. Darn you bro!
Melanchthon2007-01-28 19:43:22
QUOTE(Ixion @ Jan 28 2007, 06:47 PM) 378248
You must have at least 5 hours in realms per week to post. Darn you bro!
*cackle*
Forren2007-01-28 19:54:00
QUOTE(Melanchthon @ Jan 28 2007, 02:43 PM) 378252
*cackle*
COME BACK!
Aison2007-01-28 20:32:20
1. What is your main character's nation?
New Celest.
2. What is your nation's fundamental purpose? Use no more than one sentence.
To spread the influence of the Light by destroying the Taint.
3. What is your nation's definition of the Taint?
Warped beings of unnatural descent, corrosive and malignant. Must be removed!
4. Will your nation tolerate the existence of Taint?
No.
5. What is your nation's definition of the Light?
However the five Supernals define it.
6. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the Light?
Yes.
7. What is your nation's definition of the Wyrd?
N/A
8. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the Wyrd?
N/A
9. What is your nation's definition of Nature?
Forest bound creatures and people?
10. Will your nation tolerate the existence of Nature?
Yes.
11. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the undead?
No.
12. Which nation has given yours the most reason to oppose them? Why? (Briefly)
Magnagora, for being Tainted and not trying to fix it.
13. Is there any nation with which you have little to no disagreement? If so, which?
As far as my character is concerned, she is friendly to everyone but Magnagorians and Glomdorings. And some Serenwilde people.
14. Are there any races which receive special treatment in your nation? Which and why? (Briefly)
Not really, everyone seems to be treated equal. Merians make it off better with the ability to breathe water, though.
15. Does your nation believe individual freedom is more important than collective responsibility and duty?
No.
16. Does your nation believe that its people or its physical and planar areas have more influence on its culture?
N/A
17. Does your nation believe that their Guides (Cosmic/Elemental Lords and Great Spirits) are infallible?
N/A
18. Does your nation believe that their Guides should override their mortal leadership?
Probably.
19. Does your nation seek expansion and conquest? (Not counting swaying villages)
Yes.
20. Finally, list three to five core beliefs unique to your nation alone that do not reference individual entities. (Not "we follow White Hart" for instance).
Still trying to figure that out for myself!
Narses2007-01-28 22:01:09
1. What is your main character's nation?
Serenwilde
2. What is your nation's fundamental purpose? Use no more than one sentence.
Maintaining the world's equilibrium which allows for the maintainance of creation and the natural world to persevere
3. What is your nation's definition of the Taint?
A desease of alien origins, the anathema to that which maintains the natural balance
4. Will your nation tolerate the existence of Taint?
Depends
5. What is your nation's definition of the Light?
As alien as the Taint, though has "better intentions at heart". Just as deadly to the natural world's equilibrium as the Taint
6. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the Light?
Depends
7. What is your nation's definition of the Wyrd?
A parasitic evolution of the taint threatning to undo that which we safe-guard
8. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the Wyrd?
No
9. What is your nation's definition of Nature?
Everything that allows the on-going existence of the Basin as we know it and the primal wildreness as the embodiemnt of said equilibrium
10. Will your nation tolerate the existence of Nature?
N/A
11. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the undead?
No.
12. Which nation has given yours the most reason to oppose them? Why? (Briefly)
Glomdoring- The Wyrd thrives on the destruction of Nature.
13. Is there any nation with which you have little to no disagreement? If so, which?
Magnagora, Celest and Glomdoring. We manuver between them to the best of our ability
14. Are there any races which receive special treatment in your nation? Which and why? (Briefly)
Viscanti are not all too well liked, nor are shadow-faelings. Other then that, not really
15. Does your nation believe individual freedom is more important than collective responsibility and duty?
It used to, I feel
16. Does your nation believe that its people or its physical and planar areas have more influence on its culture?
the latter
17. Does your nation believe that their Guides (Cosmic/Elemental Lords and Great Spirits) are infallible?
N/A
18. Does your nation believe that their Guides should override their mortal leadership?
Yes
19. Does your nation seek expansion and conquest? (Not counting swaying villages)
Not conquest as a city would consider it. But to spread the Wilde, certainly
20. Finally, list three to five core beliefs unique to your nation alone that do not reference individual entities. (Not "we follow White Hart" for instance).
1- The World turns on a delicate point. The Wyrd, the Light and Taint are all external forces trying to influence the Basin and alter it to their image. Raziela turns Fae to Angels just as Nifilhema turns them to demons.
2- We have a duty to remember the ancient ways and paths treaded by our ancestors
3- Nature yields itself to our command in a simbiotic, mutual relationship of understanding that one shall not live without the other, nor die.
4- Ours is the duty to guard of what remains of the natural world as the last bastion of the Wilde
5- Death and birth are both begining and an end. All wheels must turn and cease in order for others to start their own circle
Serenwilde
2. What is your nation's fundamental purpose? Use no more than one sentence.
Maintaining the world's equilibrium which allows for the maintainance of creation and the natural world to persevere
3. What is your nation's definition of the Taint?
A desease of alien origins, the anathema to that which maintains the natural balance
4. Will your nation tolerate the existence of Taint?
Depends
5. What is your nation's definition of the Light?
As alien as the Taint, though has "better intentions at heart". Just as deadly to the natural world's equilibrium as the Taint
6. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the Light?
Depends
7. What is your nation's definition of the Wyrd?
A parasitic evolution of the taint threatning to undo that which we safe-guard
8. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the Wyrd?
No
9. What is your nation's definition of Nature?
Everything that allows the on-going existence of the Basin as we know it and the primal wildreness as the embodiemnt of said equilibrium
10. Will your nation tolerate the existence of Nature?
N/A
11. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the undead?
No.
12. Which nation has given yours the most reason to oppose them? Why? (Briefly)
Glomdoring- The Wyrd thrives on the destruction of Nature.
13. Is there any nation with which you have little to no disagreement? If so, which?
Magnagora, Celest and Glomdoring. We manuver between them to the best of our ability
14. Are there any races which receive special treatment in your nation? Which and why? (Briefly)
Viscanti are not all too well liked, nor are shadow-faelings. Other then that, not really
15. Does your nation believe individual freedom is more important than collective responsibility and duty?
It used to, I feel
16. Does your nation believe that its people or its physical and planar areas have more influence on its culture?
the latter
17. Does your nation believe that their Guides (Cosmic/Elemental Lords and Great Spirits) are infallible?
N/A
18. Does your nation believe that their Guides should override their mortal leadership?
Yes
19. Does your nation seek expansion and conquest? (Not counting swaying villages)
Not conquest as a city would consider it. But to spread the Wilde, certainly
20. Finally, list three to five core beliefs unique to your nation alone that do not reference individual entities. (Not "we follow White Hart" for instance).
1- The World turns on a delicate point. The Wyrd, the Light and Taint are all external forces trying to influence the Basin and alter it to their image. Raziela turns Fae to Angels just as Nifilhema turns them to demons.
2- We have a duty to remember the ancient ways and paths treaded by our ancestors
3- Nature yields itself to our command in a simbiotic, mutual relationship of understanding that one shall not live without the other, nor die.
4- Ours is the duty to guard of what remains of the natural world as the last bastion of the Wilde
5- Death and birth are both begining and an end. All wheels must turn and cease in order for others to start their own circle
Shyshaeia2007-02-01 23:09:21
These are all more from my Character's persepecive, than her nation's...
1. What is your main character's nation?
New Celest
2. What is your nation's fundamental purpose? Use no more than one sentence.
To heal the dicotomy the basin is stuck in (though this is impossible).
3. What is your nation's definition of the Taint?
Those affected directly by the Taint Wars, nothing more.
4. Will your nation tolerate the existence of Taint?
In time...
5. What is your nation's definition of the Light?
The teachings of the Supernals and the ways of Celestia
6. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the Light?
Yes
7. What is your nation's definition of the Wyrd?
A changed form of the 'Taint', something also left from the Taint Wars
8. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the Wyrd?
Yes
9. What is your nation's definition of Nature?
10. Will your nation tolerate the existence of Nature?
Something that was here before us and will be here after we are gone. Something that gives the Basin life.
11. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the undead?
If they change thier ways, yes.
12. Which nation has given yours the most reason to oppose them? Why? (Briefly)
Hard to say, Serenwilde and Magnagora both give us trouble for different reasons. Seren for converting the fae, slaying guardians and Magnagora for New Celest is simply anathema to them.
13. Is there any nation with which you have little to no disagreement? If so, which?
I, personally, none, New Celest is tolerant of Glomdoring.
14. Are there any races which receive special treatment in your nation? Which and why? (Briefly)
To none that I recall.
15. Does your nation believe individual freedom is more important than collective responsibility and duty?
At times yes, but it shifts.
16. Does your nation believe that its people or its physical and planar areas have more influence on its culture?
It is the people's interpretations of those planar influences that are important. Which came first the chicken or the egg? So to does this conundrum apply to this question.
17. Does your nation believe that their Guides (Cosmic/Elemental Lords and Great Spirits) are infallible?
No
18. Does your nation believe that their Guides should override their mortal leadership?
No
19. Does your nation seek expansion and conquest? (Not counting swaying villages)
No
20. Finally, list three to five core beliefs unique to your nation alone that do not reference individual entities. (Not "we follow White Hart" for instance).
Follow what you believe
and I am out of ideas....
1. What is your main character's nation?
New Celest
2. What is your nation's fundamental purpose? Use no more than one sentence.
To heal the dicotomy the basin is stuck in (though this is impossible).
3. What is your nation's definition of the Taint?
Those affected directly by the Taint Wars, nothing more.
4. Will your nation tolerate the existence of Taint?
In time...
5. What is your nation's definition of the Light?
The teachings of the Supernals and the ways of Celestia
6. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the Light?
Yes
7. What is your nation's definition of the Wyrd?
A changed form of the 'Taint', something also left from the Taint Wars
8. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the Wyrd?
Yes
9. What is your nation's definition of Nature?
10. Will your nation tolerate the existence of Nature?
Something that was here before us and will be here after we are gone. Something that gives the Basin life.
11. Will your nation tolerate the existence of the undead?
If they change thier ways, yes.
12. Which nation has given yours the most reason to oppose them? Why? (Briefly)
Hard to say, Serenwilde and Magnagora both give us trouble for different reasons. Seren for converting the fae, slaying guardians and Magnagora for New Celest is simply anathema to them.
13. Is there any nation with which you have little to no disagreement? If so, which?
I, personally, none, New Celest is tolerant of Glomdoring.
14. Are there any races which receive special treatment in your nation? Which and why? (Briefly)
To none that I recall.
15. Does your nation believe individual freedom is more important than collective responsibility and duty?
At times yes, but it shifts.
16. Does your nation believe that its people or its physical and planar areas have more influence on its culture?
It is the people's interpretations of those planar influences that are important. Which came first the chicken or the egg? So to does this conundrum apply to this question.
17. Does your nation believe that their Guides (Cosmic/Elemental Lords and Great Spirits) are infallible?
No
18. Does your nation believe that their Guides should override their mortal leadership?
No
19. Does your nation seek expansion and conquest? (Not counting swaying villages)
No
20. Finally, list three to five core beliefs unique to your nation alone that do not reference individual entities. (Not "we follow White Hart" for instance).
Follow what you believe
and I am out of ideas....
Shyshaeia2007-02-01 23:09:49
Edit: Double Post, sorry.... *grumble ...BAD INTERNET*
