What I find hilarious is that they didn't see this coming waaay ahead of time. There are plenty of ways to have coded a safeguard against it.

Before Vista was released, there were pirate copies of the real thing (Not the beta) on the streets, and crackers were already withholding exploit information to sell to commercial malware writers.

I"m still confused as to why I should want to buy Vista. Until WoW stops being running on XP, I really have absolutely no use for such a huge waste of money and system resources. If you're not on the cutting edge of games, I don't see any reason you'd need to upgrade for at least another few years.

Okay.

Bought a laptop yesterday. Core 2 Duo T7200 (4MB L2 Cache, 2.0 Ghz), 2GB DDR2 RAM, Nvidia GeForce Go 7300, 160GB HD, 17" Widescreen WXGA+ LCD, full keyboard with numberpad, etc, etc.

Vista is fantastic for day-to-day use. It's clean, simple, easy enough to install (the OS installed with far less user input than XP needed), and runs smoothly on my machine (there apparently were problems with upgrading XP-> Vista according to my go-to guy at Microsoft). The eye candy IS the most noticeable change. It's good for people not 100% sure what they're doing, while still being good enough to handle coding if I want to, etc.

The only drawback is, it's a pain to do anything in terms of system alteration. Every thing you do needs prompt clearance.

I'm in the process of setting it up for a triple boot Vista/Linux (probably Ubuntu or Slackware)/Unix (or BSD/Kerberos, undecided on the third OS).

Yes, I do get Vista Business for free as part of my University's MSDNAA agreement.

Did you get a toshiba satellite? That sounds almost exactly the same as my new laptop.


As for the "hack" you can't be serious about thinking that is a legtimate threat.

No, I'm running an Acer, with some modifications.

Hack?

I presume you're talking about my 'prompt confirmation' statement, by which I'm referring to the UAC prompts, which are pains.

I think Daganev meant the voice thing in the link he posted. (It's on the last page now since there was a double post.)

It's eye candy, but I do notice less crashes/freezes.

But the security warnings are sometimes really annoying

I love the security warnings personally.

Hopefully though, in a years time they will be able to be deactivated, but at this point in Vista's history, I love it.

Also, I love my fingerprint reader and the handwriting recognition.

You can disable UAC very easily from the control panel (requires reboot). Although from a security point of view, it's probably better to leave it on and just try and get used to it.

I'm back on Vista Enterprise at work, got them to buy me a new Core 2 Duo with 3Gb Ram. I wouldn't recommend upgrading from XP, do a fresh install. I am running with UAC off at the moment, because there are many other things that continue to annoy the hell out of me in Vista, that I need to get used to first, before I tackle having to click that annoying warning every time I want to do something.

File copying is still not right. Here is a test I did... I copied 1Gb of files (about 4,000 in total) from my old XP machine to the new vista box. When I initiated the copy from the Vista box it took 3min 30 seconds. When I initiated the exact same copy from the XP machine it took 1min 50 seconds. That makes me think it is something in the Vista shell that is slowing it down.

My main problem with Vista continues to be that I have as yet found no great feature that would make me want to upgrade from XP. (If I had to use my own money I mean.)

Apparently I dont have the same experience as everyone else....

but my moms computer was going really slowly (from all the viruses and other things that have been installed on the computer over time), so my dad decided he would get her a new laptop with vista. We got it, with a pretty decent computer... She doesnt use it, because its slower than her first one. *shrug*

for those who don't read CAD *Shames*

Sooooo true.

Vista is making me buy a console or give up on gaming altogether.

Odd, not having any of those issues.

Probabbly the search indexing.

I've been noticing at work that copy and pasting files is much slower, now that desktop live got isntalled on my machine. (but the increase in speed in searches is very usefull)

I'm sure some people need it, but I've searched my box maybe twice in my entire life. I'm just a freak about how my files are organized.

Search indexing should not, ever, have a significant overhead in the time to move files or deal with your filesystem in any way - Indexing services ought to run in the background, and indexing applications should be aware of what has been indexed and what is 'uncharted territory' so that they don't ignore something because it hasn't been indexed.

Then again, I'm not sure if Vista doesn't try to index the whole hard drive (As opposed to just personal files).

There's a hotfix for slow copies on a network.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931770/en-us

I also saw this note when searching for it.



There's also talk of AV programs slowing things down as well as permissions, and some TCP/IP setting that caps out slowing things down on a LAN.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-repli...cfm/691048.html
http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistaslow.htm

Like I said... buying Vista is paying $300 to be Microsoft's beta tester.

I hate my Vista. Forces me to use CMUD on my lappy (looks for my XP cd)
Slow as hell
Lags out in a heartbeat if I have more than one thing open (ie CMUD + AIM etc)

Only saving grace


On a free laptop *eyeshift*