Fantasy Novel Pet Peeves

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Caffrey2007-02-02 11:46:44
Terry Pratchett and Douglas Adams are great. *hugs his towel*

My aethership has a Marvin style personality smile.gif

Actually Terry Pratchett is one of the very few authors for which I am willing to shell out to buy the hardback version of books. Monstrous Regiment, Going Postal, Nightwatch and Wintersmith, all superb. He really churns the books out at quite a rate, but the quality is still high, in fact I like his recent work more than his earlier stuff. I have all the discworld novels just missing a few of the others like Carpet People, although I have read nearly all.
Shamarah2007-02-02 11:59:40
Actually, while I love the original Hitchhiker's Guide as much as anyone, the series started going downhill after that book and became lousy after Life, the Universe, and Everything. Dirk Gently's was okay too but nowhere near the level of the Guide.

Terry Pratchett, on the other hand... nearly every one of his books with the possible exception of a few of the early ones has been high-quality and extremely funny. Which really says something for his talent and dedication as an author, especially given the rate at which he cranks those books out.
Shiri2007-02-02 12:15:34
QUOTE(caffrey @ Feb 2 2007, 11:46 AM) 379727
Terry Pratchett and Douglas Adams are great. *hugs his towel*

My aethership has a Marvin style personality smile.gif

Actually Terry Pratchett is one of the very few authors for which I am willing to shell out to buy the hardback version of books. Monstrous Regiment, Going Postal, Nightwatch and Wintersmith, all superb. He really churns the books out at quite a rate, but the quality is still high, in fact I like his recent work more than his earlier stuff. I have all the discworld novels just missing a few of the others like Carpet People, although I have read nearly all.


Wintersmith, huh? I'll have to check that out. Loved the others though.
Unknown2007-02-02 14:54:35
QUOTE(Sipelus @ Feb 1 2007, 08:00 PM) 379567
1) The favourite word rule applies perfectly to him, I remember this one book where he threw in the "without missing a beat" expression every other sentence.


Don't forget "sharpest fighting edge."
Caffrey2007-02-02 15:20:19
QUOTE(Shiri @ Feb 2 2007, 12:15 PM) 379732
Wintersmith, huh? I'll have to check that out. Loved the others though.


Three words...

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Unknown2007-02-02 16:53:36
QUOTE(Aiakon @ Feb 2 2007, 06:47 PM) 379726
I would agree. Both are great.. but I also think.. neither of them really count. They are parodies of the genre, rather than members in their own right.

Hrm, that was the point I was trying to make. Guess I forgot to mention that despite the fact that I consider myself a fantasy and SF reader, what I consider as the best writers of both genres are authors who parodies the genres. Sort of speaks for what I think of the two genres in general.
Unknown2007-02-02 16:54:04
Double post.
Unknown2007-02-02 17:33:35
I think that L.E. Modesitt, Jr. is a pretty good fantasy writer. I've read his Recluce books as well as the first Corean trilogy. I haven't read any of his sci-fi stuff though. I like how he takes both sides of the whole order/chaos conflict in Recluce
Unknown2007-02-13 21:42:28
QUOTE(Demetrios @ Jan 28 2007, 10:05 PM) 378335
When Robert Jordan dies, he'll be on the 38th Wheel of Time book which will be 10,000 pages long, involve 860ish characters, and nothing will be resolved. You can bet there will be plenty of braid tugging and such, though.
Actually I typed in Robert Jordan in a google search some months back and found this as the first entry.

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Important note from Robert Jordan: March 25, 2006,
I have been diagnosed with amyloidosis. That is a rare blood disease which affects only 8 people out of a million each year, and those 8 per million are divided among 22 distinct forms of amyloidosis. They are distinct enough that while some have no treatment at all, for the others, the treatment that works on one will have no effect whatsoever on any of the rest. An amyloid is a misshapen or misfolded protein that can be produced by various parts of the body and which may deposit in other parts of the body (nerves or organs) with varying effects. (As a small oddity, amyloids are associated with a wide list of diseases ranging from carpal tunnel syndrome to Alzheimer's. There's no current evidence of cause and effect, and none of these is considered any form of amyloidosis, but the amyloids are always there. So it is entirely possible that research on amyloids may one day lead to cures for Alzheimer's and the Lord knows what else. I've offered to be a literary poster boy for the Mayo Amyloidosis Program, and the May PR Department, at least, seems very interested. Plus, I've discovered a number of fans in various positions at the clinic, so maybe they'll help out.)

Now in my case, what I have is primary amyloidosis with cardiomyapathy. That means that some (only about 5% at present) of my bone marrow is producing amyloids which are depositing in the wall of my heart, causing it to thicken and stiffen. Untreated, it would eventually make my heart unable to function any longer and I would have a median life expectancy of one year from diagnosis. Fortunately, I am set up for treatment, which expands my median life expectancy to four years. This does NOT mean I have four years to live. For those who've forgotten their freshman or pre-freshman (high school or junior high) math, a median means half the numbers fall above that value and half fall below. It is NOT an average.

In any case, I intend to live considerably longer than that. Everybody knows or has heard of someone who was told they had five years to live, only that was twenty years ago and here they guy is, still around and kicking. I mean to beat him. I sat down and figured out how long it would take me to write all of the books I currently have in mind, without adding anything new and without trying rush anything. The figure I came up with was thirty years. Now, I'm fifty-seven, so anyone my age hoping for another thirty years is asking for a fair bit, but I don't care. That is my minimum goal. I am going to finish those books, all of them, and that is that.

My treatment starts in about 2 weeks at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, where they have seen and treated more cases like mine than anywhere else in the US. Basically, it boils down to this. They will harvest a good quantity of my bone marrow stem cells from my blood. These aren't the stem cells that have Bush and Cheney in a swivet; they can only grow into bone marrow, and only into my bone marrow at that. Then will follow two days of intense chemotherapy to kill off all of my bone marrow, since there is no way at present to target just the misbehaving 5%. Once this is done, they will re-implant my bmsc to begin rebuilding my bone marrow and immune system, which will of course go south with the bone marrow. Depending on how long it takes me to recuperate sufficiently, 6 to 8 weeks after checking in, I can come home. I will have a fifty-fifty chance of some good result (25% chance of remission; 25% chance of some reduction in amyloid production), a 35-40% chance of no result, and a 10-15% chance of fatality. Believe me, that's a Hell of a lot better than staring down the barrel of a one-year median. If I get less than full remission, my doctor already, she says, has several therapies in mind, though I suspect we will heading into experimental territory. If that is where this takes me, however, so be it. I have thirty more years worth of books to write even if I can keep from thinking of any more, and I don't intend to let this thing get in my way.

—Robert Jordan
Found here, at his part of the official tor website.

So at least 30 more years of books left in him, and he could technically die at any time (this was posted last year). blink.gif Even if he was in perfect health, he'd be 87 before he finished writing what books he currently has ideas for. (The average male lifespan in the US is 72.) Somehow I don't think Rand will ever get around to a battle with the Dark One.
Unknown2007-02-17 18:55:36
Basically, each time I pick up a foreign fantasy book, it turns out to be boring and cliche.
Though I am sure I read few decent ones, I really can't point a single one right now.

As for S-F, Sergey Lukyanenko is my favourite author. Too bad you can only get Night watch series in English (I think). Cause they're way too far from the best of his.
Unknown2007-02-17 18:58:04
Once again, he has said that the next book will be the LAST, at least in the main storyline, prolouges still to come after that, if he lives long enough.
Arix2007-02-18 01:04:14
I am rarely disappointed in fantasy novels, because I keep my standards a bit lower in that regard. Also, I read Dragonlance books because I find kender amusing
Shishi2007-02-18 01:22:05
QUOTE(Arix @ Feb 17 2007, 05:04 PM) 384219
I am rarely disappointed in fantasy novels, because I keep my standards a bit lower in that regard. Also, I read Dragonlance books because I find kender amusing

and thats why I read those books
Unknown2007-02-18 02:06:06
Yeah, kleptomaniacs are funny.
Unknown2007-03-06 03:17:45
Orson Scott Card is my fan-god and I am his fanboy. Ender's Game, the Shadow books, and Enchantment spring to mind.

Diana Wynne Jones has a large number of superb books.

I also like K.A. Applegate (Animorphs, Everworld, Remnants) although she's more of a "guilty pleasure" sort of read.
Korben2007-03-06 21:31:12
My fantasy reading list isn't long. Tolkien, R. E. Feist, Jack Vance. Terry Pratchett if you count him as fantasy and not parody. Lovecraft and Robert Bloch if you count them as fantasy and not horror. Those guys raised the bar so high that I simply can't pick something off the shelf at the bookstore that comes close.

Nowadays I drink my 'fantasy' straight from the source. Le Morte D'Arthur, the Mabinogion, the Kalevala, Musashi. They're unbelievably boring in some places because they don't have the pacing the modern reader expects, but at the same time they have an essence, for lack of a better term, that is far too diluted in modern, formulaic fantasy.