Removing the Demigod glass ceiling

by Unknown

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Kaervas2007-01-30 17:58:06
Indeed I'm currently working on a report type thing for Demigods. I'll be taking any decent ideas I see on here to discuss with the others, feel free to contact me any other way if you had a suggestion you think would be good if you want too. We'll definitely be putting some thought into the bonding with Seals idea.
Daganev2007-01-30 18:12:51
QUOTE(Gwylifar @ Jan 30 2007, 09:56 AM) 378805
That's not what glass ceiling means, but what can we expect in a world where everyone thinks "epicenter" means "center".


Ok, but if you read the posts, you would know thats what he ment.
Astraea2007-01-30 20:26:40
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Regarding the Elder Circles, they are an antiquated social structure of the Elder Gods and it makes absolutely no sense RP-wise that they would have any bearing on demigods.


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Unknown2007-01-30 22:15:00
QUOTE(Estarra @ Jan 30 2007, 11:09 AM) 378800
If by "glass ceiling", you mean the ceiling between demigod and god, then, no, that ceiling will never be breached. Sorry! Note, however, that demigods who become avatars have access to a wider range of powers.

I believe Kaervas was going to work with the current demigods to suggest more ideas for them, so if you have workable balanced suggestions you know who to go to.

Regarding the Elder Circles, they are an antiquated social structure of the Elder Gods and it makes absolutely no sense RP-wise that they would have any bearing on demigods.

However, at one time I had an idea of a demigod being able to pay an essence cost to bond with one of the Nine Seals. pokerface.gif

Eeep... that's awesome... You could gather some powers similar to the original Nine.. getting Undead status if you bond with Death.. able to speak with animals and plants if you bond with Nature.. having a Pussiant like skill that makes your attack harder when bonded with War.. learn a couple of languages when bonding with knowledge... refresh others with Life.. Indigo/Kether-like ability that stays for some time when you bond with Beauty... reflect damage done to lower might back to higher might players with justice.. change your age, race and sex with Chaos... regenerate willpower faster with harmony...


*brain overheats*
Unknown2007-01-31 04:04:01
I should employ Daganev as my publicist ...

1. I definitely didn't mean Demigods need more powers or should 'evolve' into Gods. The current 'dissolution' of your existing character when you make the change to godhood is a critical component in limiting gods abusing their power and ruining the game.
2. I definitely do mean that Demigods need to be given something to strive for once they become Demigods. Nice RP devices (or tools as Daganev put it) like customshout don't need to come automatically as soon as you make Demigod - you already get extra stats, divine fire, refresh me and havens. This would help differentitate 'senior' demigods from 'junior' ones.
3. I think any additional RP-related 'tools' should be rewards for contributions to Lusternia like guiding, building, org-running.
4. I don't think any additional offensive capabilities should be added to Demigods skill sets - this isn't about making them better killers.
5. I think its a great idea to offer an array of non-offensive abilities they could choose between (or better, that they choose a 'stream' and then gain abilities in that stream as they progress up as a demigod) so that Demigods can differentiate themselves from each other.
6. 'bonding' to a seal is certainly one good way to make it RP consistent. Another might be 'bonding' to one of the non-prime planes (or perhaps one of the astral spheres or one of the cosmic or elemental planes), or 'bonding' to a race perhaps?

Exarius2007-01-31 18:57:15
A long time ago, in a thread far, far away, one of the divine made the statement that the great thing about Lusternia was once you achieved demigod, it became "a whole new game". No details were offered beyond that tantalizing statement, and I never saw it followed up on.

So was there anything to that -- plans for developing in that direction, with a new set of challenges -- or was it someone just spouting wishful thinking?
Anarias2007-01-31 20:19:13
Some ideas I had for Demigods awhile ago included the ability to create area-wide and single room emotes. I think it'd be a nice roleplay tool.

Possible requirements:

- must be at full health, mana and ego to create emote.
- costs essence
- possible 1 power cost
- 15-25 second equilibrium cost

Possible uses:

- ability to create non-combat area emotes for roleplay purposes
- emotes can utilise different colours much like Improved illusions
Unknown2007-01-31 21:35:53
QUOTE(Estarra @ Jan 30 2007, 06:09 PM) 378800


However, at one time I had an idea of a demigod being able to pay an essence cost to bond with one of the Nine Seals. pokerface.gif


OMG YES! I'm totally for -anything- that would make demigods and / or avatars different from each other. Right now, Terentia's Avatar and Fain's Avatar would have the exact same powers even though rp-wise they'd probably be very different. Same for demigods. I'd love for them to be able to 'specialize' a bit more in what they want to reflect.
Jasper2007-01-31 21:45:09
I would like to say that getting roleplay tools because you are a builder, or a guide, or a political leader is stupid. I don't see any reason why a builder/guide should get roleplaying benefits other than credits - which is a good enough reward as it is.

Also, why should there be a difference between a demigod who just the level now, when compared to one who has got it a while ago? I see nothing good coming from it, just you trying to hinder any roleplay which comes to being a demigod.
Unknown2007-01-31 22:20:41
QUOTE(Jasper @ Jan 31 2007, 01:45 PM) 379115
I would like to say that getting roleplay tools because you are a builder, or a guide, or a political leader is stupid. I don't see any reason why a builder/guide should get roleplaying benefits other than credits - which is a good enough reward as it is.

Also, why should there be a difference between a demigod who just the level now, when compared to one who has got it a while ago? I see nothing good coming from it, just you trying to hinder any roleplay which comes to being a demigod.


I disagree with the part about a Demigod being just as strong instantly as one who had been an Demigod for years. I don't think there's anything wrong with them getting new powers based on total essence earned. The spark is simply being made stronger and stronger.

It'd be cool if Demigods could even eventually ascend, if they stayed around long enough to earn like a billion essence tongue.gif
Verithrax2007-01-31 22:28:52
QUOTE(Exarius @ Jan 31 2007, 04:57 PM) 379070
A long time ago, in a thread far, far away, one of the divine made the statement that the great thing about Lusternia was once you achieved demigod, it became "a whole new game". No details were offered beyond that tantalizing statement, and I never saw it followed up on.

So was there anything to that -- plans for developing in that direction, with a new set of challenges -- or was it someone just spouting wishful thinking?

I remember that PR line, too. What happened to that?
Anarias2007-02-01 02:19:31
Likely went the way of conflict quests, making Lusternia that much more similar to the other IRE games.
Mirk2007-02-01 03:05:27
QUOTE(Anarias @ Jan 31 2007, 08:19 PM) 379202
Likely went the way of conflict quests, making Lusternia that much more similar to the other IRE games.

Or, since there aren't that many demigods, they bumped the priority for coding it down quite a few notches, and instead worked on other stuff.
Unknown2007-02-01 03:31:08
Possible Ideas.

Demigods can summon special denizens, servant creatures. It costs essence to do so, similar to power for cities and communes for guards. Maybe they can setup standard types, or each Demigod gets to design their own. They can either serve as bodyguards or perhaps if they are avatars guards for shrines.

If we tie their power to a seal--Demigods get to curse a player with a time limited Karma curse. It can't be cured but it won't last long and will never be as powerful as a real Karma curse.

Maybe it's time to bring back Thunderclap, but maybe tie it into essence so it's a rarer thing...

Maybe essence powers, powers that cost essence instead of power but can have area or world-reaching effects. For instance.

* Distort Teleportation in the Demigod's local area.
* Send an Area effect (volcano eruption, earthquake, avalanche, tornado, meteor strike) attack.
* Dissolve a Demense through force of will.
* Automatically Enthrall Denizens in an area through force of will.
* Automatically know when somebody speaks your name...hear n words around it...
* World Emotes

Special Manses or Aetherbubbles--Setup an aetherbubble or area that becomes a sanctum. The god has more powers than a typical manse owner--could have those summonable Denziens, maybe they can suppress certain effects, or they can set conglutination to their own bubble rather than their nexus.
Unknown2007-02-01 03:32:11
Double Post...
Saran2007-02-01 12:24:30
QUOTE(Phred @ Feb 1 2007, 02:31 PM) 379229
* Dissolve a Demense through force of will.


...no
Ialie2007-02-01 12:39:41
Everyone always hates this idea but I'm going to say it anyway.


The ability to hear tells of people people when you are in the same room with them.

Like the Seraphs in Imperian.
Aiakon2007-02-01 13:10:26
QUOTE(Ialie @ Feb 1 2007, 12:39 PM) 379357
Everyone always hates this idea but I'm going to say it anyway.
The ability to hear tells of people people when you are in the same room with them.

Like the Seraphs in Imperian.


What alarms me about that suggestion is the potential for misunderstanding over what tells are IC and what are OOC.
Shiri2007-02-01 13:12:26
QUOTE(Aiakon @ Feb 1 2007, 01:10 PM) 379374
What alarms me about that suggestion is the potential for misunderstanding over what tells are IC and what are OOC.

I wouldn't want people spying even on my IC tells.

Suggestion denied. (Sorry Ialie.)
Aiakon2007-02-01 13:15:41
QUOTE(Shiri @ Feb 1 2007, 01:12 PM) 379375
I wouldn't want people spying even on my IC tells.


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