i don't know how much the construct costs but I'd imagine it'd be around the same ast eh black crypt. I'd agree with Xenthos that the powers aren't worth it. The black crypt gives lich to everyone and two bonuses to everyone already with lich. Lich is a no exp death saving. From what I've heard just letting everyone capable of being resurgemed also isn't really worth it because it requires a body, experience is still lost, and if the body is there in the first place, it's just as easily retrieved by the time it's resurgemed, otherwise in other scenarios the body is usually destroyed and not able to be resurged.

Though this is just initial opinion cause I'm not sure what use the second effect has.

It's very confusing. It says it allows you to put up the moonchilde aura, for the cost of 10p. Once you have the aura you can be resurgemed(bonus for bards/guards) and this type of resurgem takes 2 less members to cast, and you can also TELEPORT MOON.

This part is a diluted reverse version of astroglide with two unnecessary pit stops along the way.
TELEPORT MOON (astral to bubble)
TOUCH DISH (bubble to nexus world)
Walk through the nexus world to the heart.
TOUCH HEART (nexus world back to prime)

It also says it allows the teleport moon command on prime, so novices will now be able to be trapped on a nexus world where we can’t hear them, joy(though I guess it's like giving a very long detoured TELEPORT NEXUS to all the novices as well, though, if they'd get lost on prime, I think they'd get lost in the bubble or nexus world.)

I don’t know why this construct is so convoluted, or why they are connecting Mother Moon to Astral (makes no rp sense). Sure the bonus to Resurgem is nice, but it doesn't seem as worth it as the free immolate +25%aether-xp ALL the nations have access too.

Note: This gives no sizable additional bonus to Moondancers only, or those with the Drawdown skill. It may be moon oriented, though make no sense why it's moon oriented, but it's not moon empowering, it's most useful for low-midbie trackers/spirit singers without vitae/transmigrate/conglute, and hart/moon novices who haven't spec'ed yet.

It almost sounds like this is a lot of little bonuses wrapped into one construct, because none of them alone would be worth it. (a way down from astral, but not a way up) (ability to be resurgemed for non-hart/moon) (reduction in resurgem size) (teleport nexus for newbies) I'm not sure they're worth it all together. I also don't know if you need to be able to use the Teleport skill in planar, this would of course remove the novice aspect from it.

As for the cost, the initial cost and upkeep are around twice as much as the silvertree. The commodity costs are relatively comparable.

@ Serenwilders:The construct is NOT RAISED, so STOP asking me 'how do i teleport to the new aetherbubble'. I've gotten at least a half dozen tells about it while I wrote up this posting.

thanks for more details on it. I had that gists of it but didn't know hte use of the teleport really. The crypt makes it so everyone in mag can get a no experience loss death with lich. Lich also gives buffs at night but has penalties during day. But the Crypt also has two other effects for those already with lich. It removes the daytime penalties and gives the ability to raise a cold aura which will freeze personal enemies.

wayy better effects I think than just giving a few people the ability to get resurgemed. I mean people mostly chase for corpses just to immolate now with the first construct and free immolations. I suppose it helps slightly in a raid situation with only 3 people needed, but how often will that come in handy with the way they raid.

Oh ya one more thing someone just pointed out to me, this isn't really a way to resurgem novices who die in newton, or unspeced hart/moon lowbies who die in the mountains/desert, as how many of those will have the 10p and also have journeyed to the nexus world and put the moonchilde aura up?

I don't think it's trying to connect Moon to Astral, but it's more of a path to get -down- for those who can't..or something like that.

Personally, unless the Aura lasts a long time, I don't think it's too worth it for so much power. Teleporting to the Bubble will be useful soon, I'm sure, considering how tied in the bubble and the people inside it are to Moon itself.

I'm kinda hoping it's a defence up until Death and only Death.

But we'll probably find out it isn't.

I'd be open to another effect of the Moonchilde aura if people want to suggest things. Or even reducing the cost if people can suggest what they consider is balanced, fair and Serenwilde is willing to pay for.

(BTW, there's a way from the Moon Bubble to astral so its not like a one way trip.)

Yeah, that things cool.

Ohhhh!

This, I love.

I was sort of expecting something similar to the crypt where it would give a special something or two to those already with the abilities of lich actually gained something. Otherwise the aura for stag and moon users only means that they put it up for maybe prime raids that way more people can raid and less are needed for a resurgem coven, but prime raids don't really happen with Glomdoring having no villages. I can't imagine something more defensive since Moon is supposed to offer some of the better defensive bonuses out of the skillsets. But maybe some sort of passive effect moonlight to person. maybe some affliction from dark? but that's sort of lack of moonlight. So maybe something like passive mini lash? orrrrr even everyone's favorite upgrade moonburst?

Sorry for the rambling I sort of think out loud.

That's nifty then, not that I personally hunt on astral, but I know it's a very big issue for others in the seren, especially those not on good terms with one or both cities.

Well, it is meant to be Moon's construct. (We'll want one for Stag at some point.) Possibly it could reduce coven sizes in other Moon spells that require covens. Or possibly it could grant a lesser moon shine effect. Again, I'm open to ideas but they should revolve around moon and effect those with the Moon Totem more than others.

Also, the Moonchilde aura basically is sticky and lasts a long time (pretty much until the construct falls).

oh I didn't understand that part right away about the astral thing. That's nice and I'd put it on par with the crypt giving the non ritualists an ability to survive death once.

ooh shine works? I was still under the impression that it wasn't working quite yet, but that was from what I heard around back when it got changed to be a defence that lasted till death and such. Course I couldn't test it myself.

Great to hear that about Moonchilde! Reducing coven size in other Moon spells that require covens isn't worth much though, since Rage requires lots of people anyway, light is pretty much useless and harvest would be a bit broken if it didn't need a coven.

The lesser moon shine effect sounds better than the resurgem thing but I dunno so I won't say much about it.

well the resurgem there is to give everyone another means to revive. That's what I've been assuming from these constructs. Cause bards and trackers can be resurgemed and Trackers and geomancers can't lich. I think Estarra was saying she's open to suggestions for adding another effect to Moonaura like how the Black Crypt gives lich users the ability to passively chill personal enemies and no daytime penalities.

*chuckle* You left out the Cone coven skill, though I don't blame you I've used it -twice- all my time as a moonie, one time was months ago, and the other was right after I left novicehood. Both were for the lost city quest finale. I actually had a quote from it somewhere, it was of a single Celestine Starcall linking and it ticking three times for every one time our cone ticked, which needed three people, making it roughly nine times more effective. Cone -would- benefit from a reduction in size, though that's has the same problem as harvest or light, they're already three, a 'coven' of 1 doesn't make any sense to me.

Anyway, enough of my rambling, a shine-like aura sounds like a skill-copy, some unquie moon ability for all seren's would be nice, even if it's realtively small. Hrm, I'll try to think of something to suggest, and still relate to Mother Moon's nature, maybe cooking dinner will give me ideas.

This was mentioned and fits with the idea of making traversing between planes easier and Resurgem:



Also if you want a neat idea to tie in with the Moon, then you could make the aura give some kind of effect depending on the current phase of the Moon.

That'd be what Estarra meant about Shine, Ashy, since that already does depend on the phase of the moon.

It sounds to me like the main point of this construct is this: "Here's a new place you will be forced to defend from endless, pointless raids, only this time, it's going to cost you 600 power per month to do it!" The resurgem buff is a nice gesture, particularly in how it is more benefit to the more neglected second-rate guilds, but it's nowhere near worth the costs, let alone the new avenues for raiding.

Of course, I'm saying this from a distance, having never seen the new bubble, having not been involved in the event, etc. Maybe the bubble's got some value that makes it worthwhile in spite of being a liability for endless raiding, or some built-in means to take care of itself as regards raiding, or something.

Estarra-- as I suggested earlier, given its effects, halving the upkeep (and perhaps cutting down initial costs by a quarter-- halving that as well may be too much) would be appropriate. 300p and 6250 gold per OOC day for this bundle of minor stuff is probably about what it's worth. It really, really doesn't need to give any kind of Shine defence, especially as Shine still needs to be resubmitted as the envoy change to it apparently was only half-implemented (it seems to still give +damage reduction instead of +health).