Krellan2007-03-15 23:15:18
QUOTE(Diamante @ Mar 15 2007, 04:01 PM) 391135
Not actually true at all, won't go into it at length here, but extensive testing proves otherwise.
And I probably have the strongest nightkiss around, and it gives me -60- health per hit, more for flavour than to actually provide any benefit.
And I probably have the strongest nightkiss around, and it gives me -60- health per hit, more for flavour than to actually provide any benefit.
ohh okay. Well I'd say that's a pretty negligible effect then. But the damage you have to admit hurts more than moonburst does.
Vix2007-03-15 23:42:15
Hm, how long does congluting take now? I know it was changed recently. Just worried that someone may kill himself to provide a body, but the coven doesn't act fast enough and the sacrificer conglutes since most resurgem instances (heck, all save like two) occur where people conglute.
Clise2007-03-15 23:45:04
Conglutination is 15 seconds. Alot of time. And guess the astral nodes balancing is gone now.
Estarra2007-03-16 00:04:12
This is a little but I'm curious about players' opinions.
The denizens of the Moon Bubble have no affiliation for the simple fact that we didn't want to make this aetherbubble a conflict area. However, we noticed people saying that a reason to raise the Moon Altar would be to protect the denizens there. While obviously there are RP reasons to protect them, there's no real reason to "raid" the bubble, which is why we didn't think there was a need for the ladies to call out for help if attacked (i.e., killing the ladies there doesn't adversely affect any person or organization).
Do you think the Moon bubble denizens should be affiliated with the Moondancers? We certainly don't want the Moon Bubble to become a grief area that players feel they must protect; however, we understand the RP reasons why they may want to protect them.
The denizens of the Moon Bubble have no affiliation for the simple fact that we didn't want to make this aetherbubble a conflict area. However, we noticed people saying that a reason to raise the Moon Altar would be to protect the denizens there. While obviously there are RP reasons to protect them, there's no real reason to "raid" the bubble, which is why we didn't think there was a need for the ladies to call out for help if attacked (i.e., killing the ladies there doesn't adversely affect any person or organization).
Do you think the Moon bubble denizens should be affiliated with the Moondancers? We certainly don't want the Moon Bubble to become a grief area that players feel they must protect; however, we understand the RP reasons why they may want to protect them.
Daganev2007-03-16 00:22:18
QUOTE(Estarra @ Mar 15 2007, 05:04 PM) 391177
This is a little but I'm curious about players' opinions.
The denizens of the Moon Bubble have no affiliation for the simple fact that we didn't want to make this aetherbubble a conflict area. However, we noticed people saying that a reason to raise the Moon Altar would be to protect the denizens there. While obviously there are RP reasons to protect them, there's no real reason to "raid" the bubble, which is why we didn't think there was a need for the ladies to call out for help if attacked (i.e., killing the ladies there doesn't adversely affect any person or organization).
Do you think the Moon bubble denizens should be affiliated with the Moondancers? We certainly don't want the Moon Bubble to become a grief area that players feel they must protect; however, we understand the RP reasons why they may want to protect them.
The denizens of the Moon Bubble have no affiliation for the simple fact that we didn't want to make this aetherbubble a conflict area. However, we noticed people saying that a reason to raise the Moon Altar would be to protect the denizens there. While obviously there are RP reasons to protect them, there's no real reason to "raid" the bubble, which is why we didn't think there was a need for the ladies to call out for help if attacked (i.e., killing the ladies there doesn't adversely affect any person or organization).
Do you think the Moon bubble denizens should be affiliated with the Moondancers? We certainly don't want the Moon Bubble to become a grief area that players feel they must protect; however, we understand the RP reasons why they may want to protect them.
Definitely make them affiliated. Raiding for RP reasons only, is in my opinion one of the best reasons to raid.
Shiri2007-03-16 02:34:17
QUOTE(Estarra @ Mar 16 2007, 12:04 AM) 391177
This is a little but I'm curious about players' opinions.
The denizens of the Moon Bubble have no affiliation for the simple fact that we didn't want to make this aetherbubble a conflict area. However, we noticed people saying that a reason to raise the Moon Altar would be to protect the denizens there. While obviously there are RP reasons to protect them, there's no real reason to "raid" the bubble, which is why we didn't think there was a need for the ladies to call out for help if attacked (i.e., killing the ladies there doesn't adversely affect any person or organization).
Do you think the Moon bubble denizens should be affiliated with the Moondancers? We certainly don't want the Moon Bubble to become a grief area that players feel they must protect; however, we understand the RP reasons why they may want to protect them.
The denizens of the Moon Bubble have no affiliation for the simple fact that we didn't want to make this aetherbubble a conflict area. However, we noticed people saying that a reason to raise the Moon Altar would be to protect the denizens there. While obviously there are RP reasons to protect them, there's no real reason to "raid" the bubble, which is why we didn't think there was a need for the ladies to call out for help if attacked (i.e., killing the ladies there doesn't adversely affect any person or organization).
Do you think the Moon bubble denizens should be affiliated with the Moondancers? We certainly don't want the Moon Bubble to become a grief area that players feel they must protect; however, we understand the RP reasons why they may want to protect them.
Fortunately, since it's an aetherbubble, we can protect the place without restrictions anyway, just like Etherwilde.
Also, them crying out would suck. It's actually good that we don't notice when they're being raided and have to go defend! Also as you said we don't lose anything by their dying. So I'm not sure what you're suggesting would happen if they were to be "affiliated with the Moondancers." Does it just mean people would be enemied by killing them?
Estarra2007-03-16 03:02:50
QUOTE(Shiri @ Mar 15 2007, 07:34 PM) 391210
Fortunately, since it's an aetherbubble, we can protect the place without restrictions anyway, just like Etherwilde.
Also, them crying out would suck. It's actually good that we don't notice when they're being raided and have to go defend! Also as you said we don't lose anything by their dying. So I'm not sure what you're suggesting would happen if they were to be "affiliated with the Moondancers." Does it just mean people would be enemied by killing them?
Also, them crying out would suck. It's actually good that we don't notice when they're being raided and have to go defend! Also as you said we don't lose anything by their dying. So I'm not sure what you're suggesting would happen if they were to be "affiliated with the Moondancers." Does it just mean people would be enemied by killing them?
Correct. They would basically react like the ladies in ethereal Serenwilde do now, calling for help when attacked and attacking people who are enemied to Spirit Moon. Of course, you'd be enemied to Spirit Moon if you kill one.
Shiri2007-03-16 03:04:33
Then that would be really really annoying.
Vix2007-03-16 03:38:13
I have to agree, it would. Maybe have them cry out and be loyal and stuff, but don't let us hear it because it's a separate aetherbubble?
Unknown2007-03-16 19:10:47
Crow Construct
- All Crow Cloaks last twice as long, and cost a single power to produce when standing at the construct
- All members of Glomdoring can FLY/LAND while wearing the cloak
- All followers of Crow have a 50% (75%?) less chance of being blown from the skies
- Harbingers wearing the cloak can influence undead twice as effectively and gain a bonus to CrowCaw (whatever the skill does, someone enlighten me)
- Ebonguard wearing the cloak deliver an additional affliction with whatever the disease skill is (DarkSpirit, I believe?)
- Blacktalon wearing the cloak do 50% more damage with Swoop (don't know enough about Swoop to judge properly)
And I can't come up with a bonus for Shadowdancers. Perhaps +1 intelligence and something?
- All Crow Cloaks last twice as long, and cost a single power to produce when standing at the construct
- All members of Glomdoring can FLY/LAND while wearing the cloak
- All followers of Crow have a 50% (75%?) less chance of being blown from the skies
- Harbingers wearing the cloak can influence undead twice as effectively and gain a bonus to CrowCaw (whatever the skill does, someone enlighten me)
- Ebonguard wearing the cloak deliver an additional affliction with whatever the disease skill is (DarkSpirit, I believe?)
- Blacktalon wearing the cloak do 50% more damage with Swoop (don't know enough about Swoop to judge properly)
And I can't come up with a bonus for Shadowdancers. Perhaps +1 intelligence and something?
Ashteru2007-03-16 19:52:33
Maybe let the construct strengthen the ghosts from Serenwilde, giving the Shadowdancers some kind of additional dark spirit swirling around them, and for BT and Crow Ebons, DarkRebirth works from all planes...hoohum.
Unknown2007-03-16 21:31:43
QUOTE(Estarra @ Mar 16 2007, 01:04 AM) 391177
This is a little but I'm curious about players' opinions.
The denizens of the Moon Bubble have no affiliation for the simple fact that we didn't want to make this aetherbubble a conflict area. However, we noticed people saying that a reason to raise the Moon Altar would be to protect the denizens there. While obviously there are RP reasons to protect them, there's no real reason to "raid" the bubble, which is why we didn't think there was a need for the ladies to call out for help if attacked (i.e., killing the ladies there doesn't adversely affect any person or organization).
Do you think the Moon bubble denizens should be affiliated with the Moondancers? We certainly don't want the Moon Bubble to become a grief area that players feel they must protect; however, we understand the RP reasons why they may want to protect them.
The denizens of the Moon Bubble have no affiliation for the simple fact that we didn't want to make this aetherbubble a conflict area. However, we noticed people saying that a reason to raise the Moon Altar would be to protect the denizens there. While obviously there are RP reasons to protect them, there's no real reason to "raid" the bubble, which is why we didn't think there was a need for the ladies to call out for help if attacked (i.e., killing the ladies there doesn't adversely affect any person or organization).
Do you think the Moon bubble denizens should be affiliated with the Moondancers? We certainly don't want the Moon Bubble to become a grief area that players feel they must protect; however, we understand the RP reasons why they may want to protect them.
No, please please don't make them affiliated. Don't make them call out. It is too easy to get into the bubble without anyone noticing. Too easy to set up demesne then kick a lady and since we then -have- to defend it'll be a slaughter fest.
I think Serenwilde has enough to defend already, it really doesn't need a bubble where we can't even place guards or totems.
I understand that people want to defend it against 'raiders' for rp reasons, but I see that rather as something like the Merians that Celest defends or the Ur'dead in Shallach that are defended by Magnagora. Making them cry for help on the channel would only force everyone to defend, which in my opinion is a very bad idea.
QUOTE(daganev @ Mar 16 2007, 01:22 AM) 391181
Definitely make them affiliated. Raiding for RP reasons only, is in my opinion one of the best reasons to raid.
Sometimes I wonder what exactly you are thinking when you post. Sure IG this would make perfect sense, however you have to consider the OOC aspect of what this might cause as well. And as I've stated above making them affiliated wouldn't help Serenwilde at all.
Daganev2007-03-16 21:36:02
QUOTE(shadow @ Mar 16 2007, 02:31 PM) 391334
No, please please don't make them affiliated. Don't make them call out. It is too easy to get into the bubble without anyone noticing. Too easy to set up demesne then kick a lady and since we then -have- to defend it'll be a slaughter fest.
I think Serenwilde has enough to defend already, it really doesn't need a bubble where we can't even place guards or totems.
I understand that people want to defend it against 'raiders' for rp reasons, but I see that rather as something like the Merians that Celest defends or the Ur'dead in Shallach that are defended by Magnagora. Making them cry for help on the channel would only force everyone to defend, which in my opinion is a very bad idea.
Sometimes I wonder what exactly you are thinking when you post. Sure IG this would make perfect sense, however you have to consider the OOC aspect of what this might cause as well. And as I've stated above making them affiliated wouldn't help Serenwilde at all.
I think Serenwilde has enough to defend already, it really doesn't need a bubble where we can't even place guards or totems.
I understand that people want to defend it against 'raiders' for rp reasons, but I see that rather as something like the Merians that Celest defends or the Ur'dead in Shallach that are defended by Magnagora. Making them cry for help on the channel would only force everyone to defend, which in my opinion is a very bad idea.
Sometimes I wonder what exactly you are thinking when you post. Sure IG this would make perfect sense, however you have to consider the OOC aspect of what this might cause as well. And as I've stated above making them affiliated wouldn't help Serenwilde at all.
Interesting... I just don't see how crying for help forces you to act. It seems to me like its a good way for people who -want- to defend, to know when to do so, and those who don't want to, to shout out "harden up" to them, or turn loyalsays off.
To me, what forces you to act is when negetive things happen as a result, such as losing power, losing comms, losing xp, losing skills etc.
Unknown2007-03-16 21:45:17
QUOTE(daganev @ Mar 16 2007, 10:36 PM) 391336
Interesting... I just don't see how crying for help forces you to act. It seems to me like its a good way for people who -want- to defend, to know when to do so, and those who don't want to, to shout out "harden up" to them, or turn loyalsays off.
To me, what forces you to act is when negetive things happen as a result, such as losing power, losing comms, losing xp, losing skills etc.
To me, what forces you to act is when negetive things happen as a result, such as losing power, losing comms, losing xp, losing skills etc.
I think -not- going to help when you hear them and when you as Moondancer even follow Moon is a big break of rp. You can't just say that you embrace the power of Moon and then totally ignore if Moon Priests cry out to you for help.
Besides, seeing all the death spam each time someone desides to bash would be annoying. And keep in mind that with loyalsays off you wouldn't hear either if guards are attacked or the ladies on ethereal. And that would be -really- bad.
Sylphas2007-03-16 23:15:19
QUOTE(daganev @ Mar 16 2007, 04:36 PM) 391336
To me, what forces you to act is when negetive things happen as a result, such as losing power, losing comms, losing xp, losing skills etc.
Or, you know, RP. Which is when IC and OOC conflict and the players get stressed out way too much.
Diamondais2007-03-16 23:18:03
Be kinda cool if Moonchilde was noticable. Not noticing anything but a def.
Daganev2007-03-16 23:25:36
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Mar 16 2007, 04:15 PM) 391374
Or, you know, RP. Which is when IC and OOC conflict and the players get stressed out way too much.
hmm, I think I see your point.
I still think you should get enemied to the moon spirit when you kill them even if they dont't shout over the aethers though.
Shiri2007-03-17 13:01:46
QUOTE(daganev @ Mar 16 2007, 11:25 PM) 391380
hmm, I think I see your point.
I still think you should get enemied to the moon spirit when you kill them even if they dont't shout over the aethers though.
I still think you should get enemied to the moon spirit when you kill them even if they dont't shout over the aethers though.
That sounds fine. I don't know if it's NECESSARY, but it wouldn't really suck to have it implemented.
@Dylara: Is archlich noticeable? Given that this is a permanent def for most people in the Commune, having something "special" associated with it might be a bit OTT.
Shamarah2007-03-17 13:04:06
Well, the ladies aren't actually loyal to moonspirit for whatever reason.
Diamondais2007-03-17 13:04:38
QUOTE(Shiri @ Mar 17 2007, 08:01 AM) 391390
That sounds fine. I don't know if it's NECESSARY, but it wouldn't really suck to have it implemented.
@Dylara: Is archlich noticeable? Given that this is a permanent def for most people in the Commune, having something "special" associated with it might be a bit OTT.
@Dylara: Is archlich noticeable? Given that this is a permanent def for most people in the Commune, having something "special" associated with it might be a bit OTT.
I know, merely commenting. After last night.. I no absolutely no complaints for the Admin.