Never quite understood why you felt that way.

Because no matter how hard I try to succeed in these games, I always end up failing. I'll get millimeters away from success and have it all blow up in my face. It's extremely frustrating. I'd prefer not to have Lucan feel that way, but there are times when I just can't help having him feel the way I do.

I guess it also stems from the fact that I don't just want to be average or okay at something, I want to be GREAT. I want to succeed in these games, I want to be someone important. I'm sick of being a nobody, but I know that with that attitude, I'll never have a hope of succeeding. I just can't seem to shake that attitude off.

Ahh. I can understand that then. I never try to be GREAT at anything, I just try to enjoy myself, and I try to have my goals accomplished -eventually-.

Same here, and it's worked wonders for me.

I get sick of seeing people who make secretary or administrator or whatever at like...19 or 20...I saw that a LOT in Aetolia and it ticked me off greatly, because I could never get to the point where I'm a shoe-in for a high position in a guild.

Don't expect raving successes at 47. What can I say. My first cityfavour was at 69 or so, heck, and my promotion to GR3 at like 71 or 72. The problem is that people don't see 'muscle,' RP notwithstanding. It's like playing the violin. Don't get frustrated that you're not a violin master after only having playing it for a year. Plus, at 47, don't try to weigh yourself down with too much RP/guild stuff. You should still try to get stronger instead of stressing out. Try the mountains and maybe krokani for hunting, TOSHA TOSHA TOSHA for influencing.

Ixion was once level 47 and was not a killing machine.

Raikogen was once level 47 and was not King of Celest.

Soll was once level 47 and not an ascended god.

etc.etc.etc.

Level is important, and trying to achieve a lot at a low level is risky and very difficult, as people don't trust you with any sort of defense, and it generally means that you have been around less and just are less acquainted with Lusternia.

So...
It is normal not to be a raving success at level 47.
That does not mean that later on, you will not be successful.
You should work towards getting stronger in order to open up far more possibilities and opportunities for RP and politics.

Well with me, these are reasons I do not play much anymore as well as the fact that my skills were changed in such a way that I would either have to spend alot more RL money to buy credits than I wanted to even catch my other skills up -or- learn a new complete different style of combat, which I was uninsterested in doing. My only other choice would have been to drop telekinesis at a great loss of lessons to actually get something useful. My biggest gripe was putting so much effort into my character then having everything I worked so hard for shoved under a rug and told to get over it.

I sat around day after day bored from not knowing what to do until I just decided to leave for Archaea first then moved on to Imperian.

Harden up, princess.

Telekinesis was overpowered. Citing the justified nerf telekinesis received as a reason to quit makes you look more than a little silly. Telling us that the justified nerf telekinesis received negated all the effort you put into your character is downright stupid, and I'm not accepting it. Whoever told you to get over it had the right idea. Get over it.

I'd like to throw in my two cents.

I started Lusternia as a beta tester, and had a blast getting to explore all the classes, and see what I could do where. I can honestly say, testing was my most rewarding time in Lusternia. When the game went public, I felt like I had accomplished something, and when I joined the Moondancers, I helped organize the guild in the first couple of hours, and stop everyone from spamming everything. I worked with a small group of people, and we seemed to get a hold of what was going on. I felt like I was leading, which was never something I could do in Achaea. Guilds were impossible in achaea, and even though I advanced in normal guild rank, I could never make it to a leadership position, even after 40 in game years of service to the guild. Then the Gods released the information that all the leaders had been prechosen, and to my surprise, i found out that I hadn't even been considered. That was ok with me though, I was used to not being able to be a leader in the group, but I personally felt wronged because I had put a lot of effort into it. Next the adminstration of the guild chose secretaries etc. and I was overlooked, again. It was only after my small group that had organized in the first place (all of whom had been placed as secretaries and higher) told the guildmaster (who we'd never seen before) that I had helped out, and he decided that he would appoint me to secretary. So yeah, they had to be reminded that I helped. That's gratifying. I worked my hardest as a secretary, doing everything I could to be considered for advancement, and did everything I could to get a higher level.

Perhaps it was my folly, but I decided I wanted to try and RP being Rowena's lost son, but I didn't inquire with the Gods (i was trying to RP remembering by myself). I pretty much failed, and the Gods asked me to remove Nightshade as my last name, so reluctantly I did. At this point, I think it was Tuek, but I could be completely wrong, ousted me as secretary because I hadn't logged in for a week. I didn't realize one week was an issue.. I had some issues to deal with. So with my secretary position gone, my namesake taken away, I got rather frusterated, and left the commune for Magnagora. That was short lived, and eventually my first character became inactive, and then I removed him (dumb me, I wish I still had him). Ever since then I've made three other characters, only one of which is still around, one that was deleted, and the other that I removed. I missed out on RPing with my first two characters about discovering Glomdoring, as I was part of the Gloriana search group that eventually went bad, but I was taken away from that too, and didn't get a position that I had hoped for in that commune (not that I deserved one that time).

My point is, from the above information, that Lusternia is/was too prescripted, and it seems that only a core group of powerful players can become remotely powerful politically, and it seems like the same people, over and over again.

Also, having just gone through novicehood again, I'd like to say that Newton is very good at this time. It was never overcrowded, and I was always able to find places to quest, and things to kill until I got kicked out at level 20.

It is very discouraging knowing that there is a large group of powerful people that are almost always in charge, and that there is really no room for leadership/advantage until you are old, and high leveled. That's the only thing that is keeping me from being part of the game any longer.

So there's my two cents.

Seraphi

Telekinesis may have been overpowered, but they killed it as a useful skill or one even worth using since alot of transed fighters have the ability to shrug off the daggers in the first place. Honestly, telekinesis was only really overpowered if you are Transed guild skills that let you have the opportunity to try locking someone then killing them quickly. -shrug- If you aren't transed and have nothing to take an opponant out quickly and have the luck of your daggers not being shrugged off, sure, it may be of some use. And you didn't look at the whole message if you think that was the only reason why I stopped playing. I stopped playing because of many reasons as I said before. Telekinesis more of an annoyance, if anything.

Irrtation with other players and their behaviour.
A conflict between four orgs can only be interesting for so long
Lack of hunting grounds

Frankly I don't care what you accept, so get over it and stop being a troll.

Rubbish. Not only is it still extremely viable, but, in my opinion, it remains a better skill for a Mage than either Runes or Dreamweaving.



I never said it was the only reason you stopped playing. However, I addressed it exclusively because you made it extremely clear that it was the most important reason why you left:

"My only other choice would have been to drop telekinesis at a great loss of lessons to actually get something useful. My biggest gripe was putting so much effort into my character then having everything I worked so hard for shoved under a rug and told to get over it."



Although you care enough to write a post about it.



Get over what? I'm not the one who cites minor and justified nerfs in a tertiary skill as the main reason why she quit Lusternia.

The troll comment I'm prepared to accept, up to a point.

AnimateDagger isn't the only skill worth a damn and Telekinesis can still be used very successfully, as proven by Forren, when he's not using his staff of overpoweredness.

I entirely disagree with you. Level has nothing to do with politics.

Etanru was shadowdancer GM at level 30, I think. Was that an issue? No. Should it have been? No.

This thread makes me sad.

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Like your going to be "great" in world of warcraft? Ha. Depending on your server and how long you play a day, your going to be condemmed to mediocrity in that game. Player interaction in Lusternia cannot even be compared to WoW. How dare you. Millions of people play WoW; Hundreds play Lusternia. I'd rather be popular and well known with the lusternian crowd anyday over those WoW fools.



I think thats really apart of the "game". Growing stronger, molding your character into someone, whoever that may be. The leveling is necessary because most people need a grind in their game. Sad but true. Nothing else to do? Kill mobs. It's not like your expected to level upto 100. 60-80 is just fine. Dyr is right, levels -shouldn't- have any effect on politics - but if you want to have your cake and eat it too, it's the norm to be of a 'regular' level. I can think of one person who has a really low level and yet is respected and known across the basin. Tully is a shining example that you don't have to be a titan to be in a position of power...Although he is a janitor o.o

I agree that its part of the game, it doesn't it make it any easier to accomplish. No I'm not looking for a game that is a handout, I just wish that I was better at getting where I want to go in terms of power.

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Name the 16 GM's and their level, then. Then try to see a pattern. The things that build city reputation often are opened up as level increases, a.k.a. raiding/defense, villages, etc.

I don't have any motivation to level beyond 47 right now because of that stupid Marani woman in the mountains, which is basically the only place I hunt. Not to mention that I can't keep a nest up for crap because I basically have to bash every single IRL day to keep it up. Besides, I lose it in a year after my totem bond dissolves anyway, so what's the point?? Maybe I should go night, but Lucan's RP follows Crow...I'm just really really frustrated with the whole nest deal...especially since each new one I build is ten power, then it's another freaking ten power to go into crow form...

1) Don't use Crowform. Not worth it for an Ebonguard in most circumstances. Not really worth it.

2) A fix for the nest has been envoyed. Feel free to ask me about it some time. It should go in soon (I hope, at least). It will still cost power, but less than rebonding the totem / rebuilding the nest all the time. You will still have to keep it up by hunting, though.

However... you only have to hunt every 2-3 days, if you fill it up. 1 carrion decays per hour. 24 carrion per OOC day. 100 carrion max. The nest'll last just over 4 days from each fill. Makes it a bit easier. (I just try to keep it full)

THANK YOU for envoying a nest fix! I'm so sick of it taking 20 power to redo a god damned nest because my stupid totem bond ended. Thank you thank you thank you!

Thank Ciaran. Was his idea.

But yes, I do know how frustrating it is.