Pop Mafia

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Okin2007-05-01 23:29:20
I am Kate Bush. I can follow another musicians musical path - follow them around at night and see where they go, but not on consecutive nights. On the first night I followed requiem, and saw nothing. Last night I couldn't do anything. I win with the town.

I believe Daganev (and, by association, Asarnil), which means I also trust Iridiel. Hence, Vote: Mirk
Okin2007-05-01 23:30:55
What I meant was, I trust those three people, and I know I'm town, THEREFORE: Mirk, Ytraelux, Othero are the people I don't like any more. Mirk's been dancing around a lynch since the beginning of the game now.
Daganev2007-05-02 00:11:00
QUOTE(Okin @ May 1 2007, 04:30 PM) 403303
What I meant was, I trust those three people, and I know I'm town, THEREFORE: Mirk, Ytraelux, Othero are the people I don't like any more. Mirk's been dancing around a lynch since the beginning of the game now.


Odd how everybody has a nice role here except for Ytraelux and Othero.

So far we have the following:

2. Okin - claimed observer - Kate Bush
* 4. Asarnil - claimed Mason/townie - Meg White
* 5. Daganev - claimed Mason/townie cop - Jack White
7. Othero - claimed townie - Britney Spears
8. Mirk - claimed helper - Aretha Franklin, diva goddess
9. Ytraelux - claimed townie - Whitney Houston
* 12. Iridiel - claimed procratinator - Pink

QUOTE(Dead)
1. Verithrax - confirmed Townie Cop - Tori Amos
2.Linwe - confirmed Townie - Aaron Carter
* 3. Requiem - confirmed Townie - Jewel
4. Saran - confirmed Mafia Godfather - Ozzy Osbourne
5. Diamondais - confirmed Townie Doctor - Bono


I have a hard time believing that we have 3 tonies, let alone 4. I would like to vote for either Ytraelux or Othero.

I would now like to play a game of "which one of these is not like the other"

Britney spears looks like a fake name to me

Vote Othero!
Iridiel2007-05-02 11:34:57
What's doing Kate Bush in this kind of game about music? Acording to his claim he isnt' a serial killer so I don't think Daganev arguments are enough anymore.

unvote;vote Okin
Daganev2007-05-02 17:09:31
http://www.google.com/musica?aid=KF104Kuet...c&ct=result

Kate Bush is a musician from the olden days.

Iridiel2007-05-02 17:18:23
QUOTE(daganev @ May 2 2007, 07:09 PM) 403520
http://www.google.com/musica?aid=KF104Kuet...c&ct=result

Kate Bush is a musician from the olden days.


Oh gosh now I made a real fool of myself.

Whatever I don't trust him. We gave him the chance to roleclaim if he was the serial killer, wich was the only reason why I wouldn't consider him scum (acording to your reasoning). He didn't, so a) he lied cool.gif he isn't a serial killer and got Requiem ninjalynched for no reason.

About Othero, if Pink is a suitable name for this game I think Spears is in the same group (mainstream pop teenager music). Why do you think it's fake?

((At least my suspicions about Daganev and Asarnil working together as a cult/mafia were true, even if they're masons so they're a good cult. I got something right!)).

Daganev2007-05-02 19:04:58
I've never heard of Pink, in fact, most of the I either haven't heard or, or if I have heard of them, would not think of them as famous people in their genre.

The most famous names I know are Ozzie Osborn, Tori Amos, Bono, Jewel, and Aretha Franklin.

And the only name that I have heard of recently in "the media" is Bono, because of the Live Aide stuff.

However, Britney Spears, and Whitney Houston, are in the media all the time. (I annoyingly have to keep making games involved with them! and are names on my "first name to come to my list" None of the other -names- are famous to me. Their music might be popular, but their names and press coverage is not.

And that is why I think they are fake names.

Okin could be scummy, and he might be lieing, but his name is MUCH more plausible as being real than Britney or Whitney houston.

1. I don't think Okin is clever enough to come up with a name nobody has ever heard of, and would think is not a musician.

2. I mistrust Othero and Ytrelux MUCH more than a mistrust Okin. I suggest going back and reading the earlier posts. One VERY interesting post in my mind is the following :


QUOTE(Othero @ Mar 3 2007, 03:21 PM) 387909
QUOTE(diamondais @ Mar 3 2007, 11:18 AM) *
I never really liked the process of random votes, but not really anything we can do. But that's just the first day, we don't know anything.

Don't worry, real votes and treachery will be coming soon


Unknown2007-05-02 20:54:55
QUOTE(daganev @ May 2 2007, 08:04 PM) 403560
I've never heard of Pink, in fact, most of the I either haven't heard or, or if I have heard of them, would not think of them as famous people in their genre.

The most famous names I know are Ozzie Osborn, Tori Amos, Bono, Jewel, and Aretha Franklin.

And the only name that I have heard of recently in "the media" is Bono, because of the Live Aide stuff.

However, Britney Spears, and Whitney Houston, are in the media all the time. (I annoyingly have to keep making games involved with them! and are names on my "first name to come to my list" None of the other -names- are famous to me. Their music might be popular, but their names and press coverage is not.

And that is why I think they are fake names.

Okin could be scummy, and he might be lieing, but his name is MUCH more plausible as being real than Britney or Whitney houston.

1. I don't think Okin is clever enough to come up with a name nobody has ever heard of, and would think is not a musician.

2. I mistrust Othero and Ytrelux MUCH more than a mistrust Okin. I suggest going back and reading the earlier posts. One VERY interesting post in my mind is the following :



Daganev... This is a game of Mafia. Of course there's gonna be treachery. How can you read scum into that? blink.gif

Either way, I'd appreciate it if you gave some evidence as to why you think I'm scummy.
Daganev2007-05-02 22:02:27
QUOTE(Ytraelux @ May 2 2007, 01:54 PM) 403609
Daganev... This is a game of Mafia. Of course there's gonna be treachery. How can you read scum into that? blink.gif

Either way, I'd appreciate it if you gave some evidence as to why you think I'm scummy.



I could go through it but it would be a bit lengthy and boring.

Basically, I analyzed voting patterns based on information I know to be "fact"

Now that I have the facts on 7 out of 12 people, that makes narrowing things down much easier.

Using a more media savvy name such as Whitney Houston didn't help you either.
Iridiel2007-05-02 22:11:46
I think the names have nothing to do. Mine is absolutely mainstream, same as Jewel, Bono or Tori Amos, confirmed townies. I would trust more voting patterns. The more I look at Okin the more scummy he's to me. I still cannot forgive that he killed Requiem just to get night to come faster (and that night Dia died after roleclaming I think) and he's not a psico killer.

Daganev2007-05-02 22:14:28
hmm, maybe Ytraelux isn't scummy afterall, but I'm not sure anymore about him anymore.

Is it possible in a game this size that there are only two mafia?
Iridiel2007-05-02 22:15:48
Second post to avoid editing:
And he hasn't given yet a good excuse on that sad.gif Not even adressed the issue of being a killer.
And there's also Mirk, who sudenly got cleared of all suspicion as well. But he comes after Okin gives a credible explanation. Maybe he's a fan of british music and he knew the name so choose that one.
Btw, wise ones, how many mafia are we talking about in a game this size?
Daganev2007-05-02 22:17:55
QUOTE(Iridiel @ May 2 2007, 03:11 PM) 403663
I think the names have nothing to do. Mine is absolutely mainstream, same as Jewel, Bono or Tori Amos, confirmed townies. I would trust more voting patterns. The more I look at Okin the more scummy he's to me. I still cannot forgive that he killed Requiem just to get night to come faster (and that night Dia died after roleclaming I think) and he's not a psico killer.


Other than Saran, Othero has been not voting the most of anybody. They both seemed hesitant to say things and to get involved with the town.

Part of me wants to vote for Okin, however I got biased against him very early in the game, cause he seems to always target me right away. So that bias to want to lynch him is holding me back.

Who's life did Okin save by lynching Requim?
Daganev2007-05-02 22:18:41
QUOTE(Iridiel @ May 2 2007, 03:15 PM) 403665
Second post to avoid editing:
And he hasn't given yet a good excuse on that sad.gif Not even adressed the issue of being a killer.
And there's also Mirk, who sudenly got cleared of all suspicion as well. But he comes after Okin gives a credible explanation. Maybe he's a fan of british music and he knew the name so choose that one.
Btw, wise ones, how many mafia are we talking about in a game this size?


Normal is 3 mafia for a game of size 12.
Daganev2007-05-02 22:25:58
btw, I am VERY open to new interpretations of the data.

Although I had my good hunch about shamarh/saran at the begining of the game, since then all my hunches on mafia have been wrong.
Okin2007-05-02 23:56:54
QUOTE(daganev @ May 3 2007, 08:47 AM) 403666
Other than Saran, Othero has been not voting the most of anybody. They both seemed hesitant to say things and to get involved with the town.

Part of me wants to vote for Okin, however I got biased against him very early in the game, cause he seems to always target me right away. So that bias to want to lynch him is holding me back.

Who's life did Okin save by lynching Requim?


If I do have a tendency to go for you early in the game (which sounds plausible) it's because you confuse me! I don't like being confused.

Also, I didn't save anyone's life with my vote for Saran. Saran, proven mafia, came along less than an hour before the posted deadline and voted in a way that would result in a No Lynch. Seeing this, I thought "Wow, that's really scummy. Even though I'd prefer Othero to be lynched above requiem, a No Lynch hurts the town." I voted for Saran, not because I thought he was mafia (although I did think that), but because I knew removing my vote for Othero would result in a lynch.

QUOTE(iridiel)
I think the names have nothing to do. Mine is absolutely mainstream, same as Jewel, Bono or Tori Amos, confirmed townies. I would trust more voting patterns. The more I look at Okin the more scummy he's to me. I still cannot forgive that he killed Requiem just to get night to come faster (and that night Dia died after roleclaming I think) and he's not a psico killer.


I did not kill requiem - the four people voting for him did. Also, night came because the deadline passed - I had no power to cause night to fall.
Daganev2007-05-03 00:10:35
Ok, yeah Okin is making sense.

Here is how it was, 3 votes on Requim, 4 votes on Othero, Othero was oddly not voting for Requim, which you think he would have since it was either him or requim. ( But not odd if you are working to remove suspicion from yourself. )

Saran tried to jump in last second to force a no lynch, very scummy, and said that Othero was new, and so is he.

so, now its 4 to 4 with a no lynch which is TERRIBLE for the town.

Okin had to switch his vote, and since he was already voting for Othero, he had to switch to requim.

It is possible that there are only two mafia, so I suggest we vote for Othero. Since we were about to lynch him anyways, and he isn't being very helpful today.
Okin2007-05-03 00:12:29
I'm down with that. Unvote: Mirk, Vote: Othero
Daganev2007-05-03 00:21:20
Current vote count because too many people aren't talking...


Othero (3) - Daganev, Mirk, Okin
Okin (1) - Iridiel
Mirk (1) - Ytreaulux

Not voting (2) - Asarnil, Othero

7 alive 4 to lynch
Unknown2007-05-03 06:39:48
Othero hasn't really explained many, if any of his actions today, Unvote:Mirk - Vote:Othero