So far I have a leather vest with 100% esteem, 97 months on it. You know you want it! Get karma now or later when you really need it!

I'll buy it, now much?

For all my recent complaints about influencing being too hard, I've built a system that makes Tosha a breeze So I expect to be selling one of these things every few days. I might even get might and artifacts to make Jelaludin influence better instead of getting to and from astral easier.

I sold my last one for 8k. Problem is, my guild/city would get mad if I sold it to someone from Glomdoring, and I am beginning to like Celest. I probably couldn't PvP people for bashing Tosha as a Mag or Glommy or Serenwilde member either. If you want to buy it from him you'll have to get a middle man from Celest or a Serenwilder Jelaludin doesn't dislike to purchase it, since he basically can't sell to Daganev.

Why's that? According to the treaty, you're allowed free trade.

Ok, I feel like a nub I was told I couldn't sell to Mags and I kind of assumed that extended to Glommies since last I was around Celest lumped them together. If there is such a treaty I'll definitely sell such items I make to people from Glomdoring.

You should be able to find it in a chelp somewhere, I think.

Yeah, I found it. I was pretty surprised.

Welcome to the peace treaty, isn't it lovely?

Gee Jello, get with the news Things have changed a little since you last played. You'd probably have better chances of bartering with Glom than Seren too.

I am always buying esteem if people are selling.

You'll have better luck selling imbued items if you use bottles too by the way. They last a long time and most people like having bottles over anything else.

I prefer flowers, and just about anything that holds 100% esteem.

I'm always selling, out of the bazaar in Zorana.

That was my post, BTW. Don't know when I got signed out.

On the subject, it seems like people can get karma faster by bashing astral, so what is the value of imbued items? Just that they can be instant karma?

Defiling mostly and offering. It's stockpiled essence.

Know how much are they worth defiling and offering? If it's equivalent to how much karma they give, it would seem to me like bashing astral would still be the better way to go for shrines. Or do people pay a lot for astral corpses?

Astral corpses have the disadvantage of decaying. It takes 100,000 essence to drop one shrine room, that's around 40 astral corpses... and that -does- take a bit to bash each time. Esteem, you just grab a bottle and go. It's just a lot faster and more convenient, plus it can be piled in a shop.

100% esteem = 65536 essence to be exact (yes the number rings a bell doesn't it?)

So only two esteem items will destroy a shrine?

About 150% will drop one room of a shrine. A shrine can have 15 rooms, so all in all 16 (15 rooms + shrine room). That makes 1,600,000 essence to drop a fully sanctified shrine or 24,5 bottles or 2450% esteem.