Unknown2007-03-23 18:33:39
QUOTE(ceren @ Mar 23 2007, 02:27 PM) 392814
Carcer affects everyone except the caster.
I distinctly rememberd being caught by my own Carcer, but after casting it and moving in and out countless times, it never caught me. Until I see it catch me and I log it, carcer definitely doesn't effect the caster. Point conceded!
Rakor2007-03-23 20:17:00
That's strange, I remember getting caught by my own carcer multiple times when I had it. I wonder if that was changed or if I'm remembering wrong.
Ashteru2007-03-23 20:19:12
nope, hits yourself too.
Unknown2007-03-23 21:48:38
Does not. 
Ashteru2007-03-23 22:02:25
Are you sure? I could swear it used to hit me too. *Chin*
Ildaudid2007-03-23 22:52:15
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Mar 23 2007, 06:02 PM) 392857
Are you sure? I could swear it used to hit me too. *Chin*
It used to, but I don't have it anymore, so I can't test it.
Unknown2007-03-24 00:23:57
I'm pretty sure. Yup.
Unknown2007-03-24 02:16:13
I remember complaining a lot when I first got into Lusternia that my own carcer was kicking my coke can around. I thought they changed it at one point but maybe not it would seem.
Edit: Go censorship. I have a right to talk about my coke can.
Edit: Go censorship. I have a right to talk about my coke can.
Shamarah2007-03-24 02:25:39
Carcer used to hit yourself, it doesn't anymore.
Krellan2007-03-24 02:51:39
QUOTE(Ixion @ Mar 23 2007, 04:34 AM) 392664
Compare like skills to like skills. That argument is quite poor. Power cost is different, chasm has a requirement, chasm does not share a message with another geomancy skill. Sure they have some similarities, but you have to look at the archetype and then make an assessment.
Judgment-- sacraments-- celestines/paladins
Chasm-- geomancers only. Counter being, preserve that aquas have.
Bards only have one bardic skillset instakill, which parallels warriors in a way.
One with no analytical skills whatsoever could just lump all time instakills together and call it "even."
Judgment is an extra instakill that has no parallel and nothing to balance it amongst any of the other orgs. Surely you can see that.
Judgment-- sacraments-- celestines/paladins
Chasm-- geomancers only. Counter being, preserve that aquas have.
Bards only have one bardic skillset instakill, which parallels warriors in a way.
One with no analytical skills whatsoever could just lump all time instakills together and call it "even."
Judgment is an extra instakill that has no parallel and nothing to balance it amongst any of the other orgs. Surely you can see that.
you forgot that chasm also needs taint to add to your point. stay out of taint and and geomancers lose chasm
Ixion2007-03-24 03:00:56
QUOTE(Krellan @ Mar 23 2007, 09:51 PM) 392940
you forgot that chasm also needs taint to add to your point. stay out of taint and and geomancers lose chasm
Sure didn't forget.
QUOTE(Ixion @ Mar 23 2007, 04:34 AM) 392664
Compare like skills to like skills. That argument is quite poor. Power cost is different, chasm has a requirement, chasm does not share a message with another geomancy skill. Sure they have some similarities, but you have to look at the archetype and then make an assessment.
