As a brief question for you-- how often do you see me raiding on Prime (or even in general)? I already have Dark Rebirth, so I don't lose anything-- it's just not something that interests me. I'd say that this month, I've raided... three times (out of thirty days). One Prime, two Nexus World visits. Despite the fact I have access to an "abuseable skill".

Not everybody feels the need to abuse what they've got to annoy others, after all.

Now, back on topic myself: We had suggested making the Dark Nest able to hold 150 carrion. It would cost 75 carrion and 10p to get an egg from the Dark Nest, and you would have to bring it to a specific place in the Glomdoring or it would have no rez (for example, it would be stored at the Drums of the Dead, or in the harpy feeding area, or some such place). Make it last a decent amount of time, like 5 months, once inserted. Otherwise, it can be stored in your nest, and will last until your nest decays or the Construct falls.

If stored in the Glomdoring-area, when you die, you'd be revived there (like DarkRebirth), with the spirit. If stored in a nest, it doesn't do anything except make Crowform cost nothing. Still no real benefit to Crow users, but eh-- it's kind of a lesser version of the Archlich thing, I suppose, and DarkRebirth itself is better than lich.

The downside to this? You can only have two commune members make an egg at once. It would require consistent hunting to keep the nest full of carrion for eggs. If five people raid on Prime, only two can make an egg, and the other three are SOL without going out and hunting 225 carrion. That's assuming that the nest's already full, of course, when they all die... it would allow one Prime raid over a couple-hour period, or allow people to use it for bashing purposes. It'd also remove suspect gain from most of the Glomdoring, which is a bit of another downside. Heh.

(Though I would like the Wyrdtree to give conglutination in EthGlom. Or maybe the Immolation construct. The similar constructs in other orgs would do the same in the territory they "watch over".)

I used to love the Altar, but now I always transmigrate, so it's pretty useless. I never want to see it taken down, though, because of the Astral thing. Because the Mirror there shifts, we can move to different spheres at different times- a lot better than most city people have it.

I find it pretty stupid that Commune folks have to spend some 150 credits JUST to get to Astral, whereas City people had to simply learn Astroweave, or ask for a ride up.

Otherwise, meh, it would be pretty cool if it was given some other effect that's semi-active.

heh that's what I really liked about the commune fights. don't have to worry about too much grief for the most part, at least not on a city vs city level. hrm upkeeping the it woudln't be too bad. if one carrion= one corpse that is. lots of easy ways to get that especially when glom has several top bashers...hyrtakos...lisarel..ashteru..kaervas if he wanted.

It's not really 1 carrion == 1 corpse. Astral corpses are worth a decent bit of carrion. Still, it requires hunting to keep it up-- and if it caps at 150, you can't bash up a large amount ahead of time and then let a "griefing team" go loose. You fill it to 150, and the rest of the corpses just get offered. There's no way to get that kind of carrion in an hour inside Glomdoring, though. You'd have to leave the Glomdoring to get more, which would allow Serens who are "angry about the raid" to look into some sort of reprisal. Or not. Their choice.

interesting idea that could work too.

Yeah. It's an interesting idea, and it'd be the most powerful construct on paper, imo. However, it'd also require the most upkeep in terms of time/effort to get that ability, and it'd give little appreciable benefit to about a third of the Commune (less than the benefit other orgs receive), which I'd think would balance it out a bit.

I ment for glom, putting the egg in the corpse of a dead guild or commune enemy. Sort of like how the moon altar is supposed to work soul res, -only- if you have dead enemy corpses to bring your dead back. For glom they'd just need the dead enemies ahead of time, to make their next raid a freebie. (I can't believe I suggested giving someone another way to destroy corpses. >_< )
The problem with improving on darkrebirth is you -can't- improve on it, it's already a perfect res skill in what it does, the only thing you could further do to improve it would be to lower the carrion cost, or improve the affliction side of it. (or turn it into transmigrate 2.0 , and we've already heard that skill copies are a no-no)

As for the communal nesty thing only working for 2 at a time: No elitist constructs please. I know you ment well, but that's what it would end up being.

If that means that everyone gets the dark rebirth affliction spirit then I'm heavily against it, sorry. That is something that I'd consider too much tbh.

As for the resurrection.. it sounds to me like a commune wide transmigrate? Why not take something more utility instead of less / no exp loss skills..

EDIT: And I'm not sure I'd like for every newb to have transmigrate. I can just imagine the stupid actions that'll follow since you 'can't lose anything'. Like flying in and cudgeling novices (has happened), emoting to start a fire (this time without a Godess to stand by and make sure you're not killed for it) etc..



Erm, no it was never supposed to work that way, I think you're misunderstanding something. The soulrezz works if you have ANY corpse for it. It was just emphasized that you -could- do it with enemy corpses as well, however not that you can -only- do it with enemy corpses (which would kind of be stupid too and make no sense RP-wise. And as Shamarah has been said, guild enemying is the easiest thing there is.)

I still like my suggestion about the shouting construct the best.

I'd be fine with it if we just got another 10% to 15% DR and +2 to con or something.

Dream on teddy

Edit: Just adding onto the ideas.

How about allowing the construct to give a whole different slew of abilities?
1. The egg gain 10% of whatever experience you gain(you do not suffer any loss in xp gain). Whenever you die/pray/other stuff that costs xp loss, the egg will drain its reserves to mitigate that. You must be holding on to it for the egg to gain experience.
2. People with crow form gets free crow form and the ability to fly without being disrupted by the wind.
3. People with night kiss gets to gather any number of shadows in a location. No more 1 shadow per location at night, you can gather like cauldron gather 20 shadows and it does.
4. Everyone gets the option to HIDE EGG in a location, which removes it from your inventory and cannot be seen or interacted by anyone else. Only you can see it and can recover it by RECOVER EGG. Hiding an egg allows you to conglut to where the egg is and destroys the egg in the process. Keeping it in your inventory does nothing when you die except for the xp mitigation. This only works in the local and adjacent area.

Mix and match!

Seconded.

I pushed for it from day 1. Not to mention it saved my ass today in combat. Elohora, remove 1 afflict, wait 2 seconds, green, remove 2 more. Total: 6 seconds, 3 afflicts gone, 3 power used. Tasty. Not to mention I can pray to elohora again after that since the prayer's 6 second timer reset. so that'd be 8 seconds, 4 afflicts gone, 3 power used.

Further, I think Celest people keep forgetting that the prayers are usable while prone, which is just sweetness incarnate, imo. So they're not freaking AMAZING in combat. Deal with it, it's amazing utility, and when used creatively offers a slight edge in pvp.

I think you're misunderstanding. Only two eggs could be gotten right away. Hunt a few corpses, put it in, bring it to 75 carrion and another egg can be gained. It's not an elitist construct. What it *is* is a time limit imposed on the gaining of a new spirit, just like Crow users have-- however, it's a much larger time issue as it's shared by the whole Commune and not just one nest.

By the way, Aesyra-- that dark spirit has been "nerfed". If you die anywhere and don't rebirth (that is, if you conglut, or vitae, or what have you), you lose the spirit. So it's not exactly such a big deal-- it's pretty hard to keep it now.

Ah, Alrighty.

I like some of Clise's ideas, ask for more other small things to be added onto it, rather then trying to improve the res part.