Krellan2007-03-28 17:46:29
QUOTE(mitbulls @ Mar 28 2007, 12:42 PM) 394317
Bah, I always forget that Night doesn't have a resurgem equivalent. They should.
they're all gonna get dark rebirth anyways
Aiakon2007-03-28 17:56:02
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Mar 28 2007, 06:38 PM) 394315
Im really not going to go into the reasons here Aiakon, but do ask Daevos when he is on, he can explain things in words much clearer than I can, and he will tell you what the benifits of the angelfount construct is vs the crypt construct.
"Daevos says so" is not the most solid of arguments.
I will ask him, anyway... but I somehow doubt that he'll be able to tell me much more about the Angelfont than I already know, and I'm perfectly capable of making up my own mind given the evidence as I see it.
Clise2007-03-29 01:25:54
QUOTE(Krellan @ Mar 29 2007, 01:46 AM) 394320
they're all gonna get dark rebirth anyways
That remains to be seen still, isn't it?
Shamarah2007-03-29 01:28:34
QUOTE(Krellan @ Mar 28 2007, 01:46 PM) 394320
they're all gonna get dark rebirth anyways
yes plz
Clise2007-03-29 01:50:28
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Mar 29 2007, 09:28 AM) 394413
yes plz
Then what would those already with Dark Rebirth get?
Unknown2007-03-29 01:57:00
QUOTE(Clise @ Mar 28 2007, 08:50 PM) 394416
Then what would those already with Dark Rebirth get?
Works across all Planes for them + overall less carrion usage + twice as many afflictions delivered.
Or a combination of the three.
Clise2007-03-29 02:00:09
So basically its still praying for non Crow users without conglutination off Prime then.
Gandal2007-03-29 02:54:54
QUOTE(diamondais @ Mar 28 2007, 01:40 PM) 394316
Actually, right now. Those three I just listed are the only ones who don't have access to a ressurection skill. All of Serenwilde can become Moonchildren, and thus can be resurgemmed. All of Celest has Sacrifice and Ressurect. All of Magnagora now has Lich.
Ummmm...I thought that Angelfont made Sacrifices and Ressurects cost 0p, not allow people to sacrifice/ressurect, whereas Lich is a different story.
Clise2007-03-29 02:57:03
QUOTE(Gandal @ Mar 29 2007, 10:54 AM) 394425
Ummmm...I thought that Angelfont made Sacrifices and Ressurects cost 0p, not allow people to sacrifice/ressurect, whereas Lich is a different story.
What that meant was that even if you do not have sacraments, there is someone else ready to ress/sac you.
Gandal2007-03-29 02:59:18
But...wasn't that always the case?
Clise2007-03-29 03:04:38
QUOTE(Gandal @ Mar 29 2007, 10:59 AM) 394427
But...wasn't that always the case?
It was and thus always a source of many complaints before the constructs appeared. Now with the exception of Glomdoring, everyone can be ressed/saced. Though Sacrifice was nerfed not to allow conglutination because of massive complaints that other orgs do not allow ressurection of souls anytime/anywhere. Now that this problem has been resolved (Lich for Mag citywide, RANGED SOUL ress for Serenwilde), can we change it back?
Ildaudid2007-03-29 03:06:48
QUOTE(Aiakon @ Mar 28 2007, 01:56 PM) 394323
"Daevos says so" is not the most solid of arguments.
I will ask him, anyway... but I somehow doubt that he'll be able to tell me much more about the Angelfont than I already know, and I'm perfectly capable of making up my own mind given the evidence as I see it.
I will ask him, anyway... but I somehow doubt that he'll be able to tell me much more about the Angelfont than I already know, and I'm perfectly capable of making up my own mind given the evidence as I see it.
Aiakon, that was not what I was trying to say. You know, and I know that I do not pen my thoughts coherently most of the time. So that is why I asked you to ask him, he can lay out the pros and cons in a better way than I can, and I am sure you would not want to hear me say "Because it just is.". If I had to explain it I would get frustrated trying to get my thoughts to print, like I normally do. So please do not belittle me with such a response as "Daevos says so."
Razenth2007-04-29 00:56:30
Necro.
Angelfont works wonders for bashing.
Thank you Anisu for your unauthorized construction of it. Raikogen better have nothing more than given you a slap on the wrist.
Angelfont works wonders for bashing.
Thank you Anisu for your unauthorized construction of it. Raikogen better have nothing more than given you a slap on the wrist.
Ashteru2007-04-29 01:07:24
Gloms construct is gr...go...ac....well. I hope we get a fix for it. <.<
Anisu2007-04-29 06:46:23
QUOTE(Razenth @ Apr 29 2007, 02:56 AM) 402418
Necro.
Angelfont works wonders for bashing.
Thank you Anisu for your unauthorized construction of it. Raikogen better have nothing more than given you a slap on the wrist.
Angelfont works wonders for bashing.
Thank you Anisu for your unauthorized construction of it. Raikogen better have nothing more than given you a slap on the wrist.
erm I constructed it at the command of the council and I and many others still think the construct sucks, we simply placed it to draw attention away from our other constructs
Ildaudid2007-04-29 07:30:54
QUOTE(Anisu @ Apr 29 2007, 02:46 AM) 402474
erm I constructed it at the command of the council and I and many others still think the construct sucks, we simply placed it to draw attention away from our other constructs
This is what intelligence agencies call misinformation
Ashteru2007-04-29 10:50:52
I'd have an idea that would make our construct entirely viable and good. Make it work so that the egg can be in adjactant areas too. <.<
Forren2007-04-29 11:59:16
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Apr 29 2007, 03:30 AM) 402478
This is what intelligence agencies call misinformation
Ildaudid, do you actually know what the construct does? Time for Forren to give a lesson on the use of the Angelfont.
1. Allows praying for health/ego/mana. 3/4 classes in Celest have skills that already do this.
2. Eliminates a power cost for resurrect, sacrifice, and benediction. Resurrect and benediction removing the power cost are nice, but it didn't change anything except power usage. Sacrifice cost is still blah because power is wasted on those who have vitae up (or the other way around.. it's early in the morning).
3. 5% damage reduction.. yay 5%?
What does your construct give? Lich, which enables all Magnagorans to lose no XP on death and be able to easily escape after dying. I don't see how you can possibly think ours is better.
I suggest you read more about the construct before making a post like that, Ildaudid.
Ashteru2007-04-29 12:05:23
QUOTE(Forren @ Apr 29 2007, 11:59 AM) 402502
Ildaudid, do you actually know what the construct does? Time for Forren to give a lesson on the use of the Angelfont.
1. Allows praying for health/ego/mana. 3/4 classes in Celest have skills that already do this.
2. Eliminates a power cost for resurrect, sacrifice, and benediction. Resurrect and benediction removing the power cost are nice, but it didn't change anything except power usage. Sacrifice cost is still blah because power is wasted on those who have vitae up (or the other way around.. it's early in the morning).
3. 5% damage reduction.. yay 5%?
What does your construct give? Lich, which enables all Magnagorans to lose no XP on death and be able to easily escape after dying. I don't see how you can possibly think ours is better.
I suggest you read more about the construct before making a post like that, Ildaudid.
1. Allows praying for health/ego/mana. 3/4 classes in Celest have skills that already do this.
2. Eliminates a power cost for resurrect, sacrifice, and benediction. Resurrect and benediction removing the power cost are nice, but it didn't change anything except power usage. Sacrifice cost is still blah because power is wasted on those who have vitae up (or the other way around.. it's early in the morning).
3. 5% damage reduction.. yay 5%?
What does your construct give? Lich, which enables all Magnagorans to lose no XP on death and be able to easily escape after dying. I don't see how you can possibly think ours is better.
I suggest you read more about the construct before making a post like that, Ildaudid.
Don't you mean 2/4? And can't you also pray for one afflictioncure?
Arissa2007-04-29 13:33:31
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Apr 29 2007, 12:05 PM) 402503
Don't you mean 2/4? And can't you also pray for one afflictioncure?
Celestines+paladins: rituals
Aquamancers: twirl staff
Cantors also have health restoring skills I think, though I am not sure about that.
as for the affliction cure, it is ok for pve but not that usefull in pvp.