Angelfont

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Ixion2007-03-25 02:47:49
QUOTE(talkans @ Mar 24 2007, 09:42 PM) 393222
Where do you find time to play the game in between crying your eyes out about how "horribly overpowered" celest's skills are?
It's reallly tiring. And yes, having to have 10 power in your prompt before being able to use true heal is one argument, and it's a great argument. And honestly, there is no argument against it. The next time you have 10 power laying around when your fighting someone seriously, then you can say something (but you never will, so don't try).

And, if you like it so much-I and many other Celestians would GLADLY trade you for lich. In. A. Heartbeat.


I can have 10p instantly any time I choose. I truly pity you if you cannot see how absurd the 0p trueheal is.
Unknown2007-03-25 02:48:09
QUOTE(Zacc @ Mar 24 2007, 08:47 PM) 393231
Yay for trueheal. This should make it a bit easier to escape those pesky people who attack me while I'm harvesting. happy.gif

FORGET DRUIDRY

problem solved
Unknown2007-03-25 02:48:12
QUOTE(Estarra @ Mar 24 2007, 09:45 PM) 393230
Tone it down, guys.

If you want us to listen, at least try to be civil and present your arguments in an adult manner.


This much of an outcry in only a few minutes means you have done a Bad Thingâ„¢.
Lysandus2007-03-25 02:49:35
Other than just trying to downgrade our construct, why not suggest an upgrade on your crypt? Like since you're all undead and rotting, give it a passive disease affliction to anyone you touch or anyone in the room, make archliches more useful by giving it another upgrade with the coldaura to boot.

Really, you have take a look at your skills and not ours all the time.
Unknown2007-03-25 02:49:48
QUOTE(Estarra @ Mar 24 2007, 08:43 PM) 393228
The ablution and lustration sounds like an interesting compromise.

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I say give the ability to receive the ablution and lustration.. that way sacrament users can become more priest like... they spread the blessings of the light to everyone in the city
Arix2007-03-25 02:49:52
QUOTE(Visaeris)
I want to take you up on that offer. For like a week we should have an event where sacraments and necromancy were switched.


I second this. wacky hijinx would surely ensue
Ildaudid2007-03-25 02:51:22
QUOTE(talkans @ Mar 24 2007, 10:42 PM) 393222
Where do you find time to play the game in between crying your eyes out about how "horribly overpowered" celest's skills are?
It's reallly tiring. And yes, having to have 10 power in your prompt before being able to use true heal is one argument, and it's a great argument. And honestly, there is no argument against it. The next time you have 10 power laying around when your fighting someone seriously, then you can say something (but you never will, so don't try).

And, if you like it so much-I and many other Celestians would GLADLY trade you for lich. In. A. Heartbeat.


Umm I keep 10 power to use serpent, when fighting, and welp, tons of Celestian skills go right through that. But I can keep 10 power easy

QUOTE(Lysandus @ Mar 24 2007, 10:43 PM) 393229
We haven't even tested this yet not to mention build it and people are quick to judge about the construct's ability.

using 10 power in the heat of the battle means you're desperate in either getting out alive (trueheal, lich, tripleflash) or performing a quick kill (hyperactive for tarot users, any other skills that require 10 skills that makes them strong for the moment?).


Umm, Lysandus, please callete tu boca porfa, y no entiendes nada de nada. And if you are going to be adamant for Celest, like you were adamant to Mag as Hraddon, please sit back and realise how OP this actually is.

I mean, when was Magnagora asked what they would like for a construct? Will Glomdoring be asked what they want? or will the get the Xenthos prediction of the whole, say Glomdoring, and for 10p everyon in Glom says "Glory be to Glomdoring?"
Unknown2007-03-25 02:51:35
Zacc. Please, have something that adds to the thread.
Unknown2007-03-25 02:52:18
QUOTE(Lysandus @ Mar 24 2007, 08:49 PM) 393236
Other than just trying to downgrade our construct, why not suggest an upgrade on your crypt? Like since you're all undead and rotting, give it a passive disease affliction to anyone you touch or anyone in the room, make archliches more useful by giving it another upgrade with the coldaura to boot.

Really, you have take a look at your skills and not ours all the time.

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Lich is ok and borderline overpowered... Trueheal is a lot for Celest.. a lot
Ixion2007-03-25 02:52:21
QUOTE(Lysandus @ Mar 24 2007, 09:49 PM) 393236
Other than just trying to downgrade our construct, why not suggest an upgrade on your crypt? Like since you're all undead and rotting, give it a passive disease affliction to anyone you touch or anyone in the room, make archliches more useful by giving it another upgrade with the coldaura to boot.

Really, you have take a look at your skills and not ours all the time.


It doesn't need an upgrade IMO, because they're not suppposed to be vastly overpowering. I think they are supposed to be just strong enough to make a meaningful difference to an org, and give a solid motivation to progress combat into the aether and nexus worlds.

You have no idea how cool it is being able to say I'm an "undead tracker." I'd pay for the undead tag alone, really.
Ceren2007-03-25 02:52:28
QUOTE(Estarra @ Mar 24 2007, 08:43 PM) 393228
The ablution and lustration sounds like an interesting compromise.

chin.gif

Trueheal already restores your health and mana above max, or maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you mean by this.
Razenth2007-03-25 02:52:34
Wow, that trueheal bit looks incredibly overpowered.
Diamondais2007-03-25 02:54:14
QUOTE(Corinthian @ Mar 24 2007, 09:48 PM) 393233
FORGET DRUIDRY

problem solved

Actually. Bit more. But I honestly don't care right now.

Don't know. Just.. way more pressing issues than worrying about a silly construct as far as Lusternia goes.
Ildaudid2007-03-25 02:54:18
I really think that the majority of the people in Lusternia think this is too much, except the few who would defend anything Celest can possibly be handed to them. But all in all..... Lets make a poll!!!


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Unknown2007-03-25 02:57:11
I think it's already obvious what people think, and people will vote in spite because they hate Celest anyway.

Perhaps the overpowered power should just be removed in the meantime in order to sate the angry mobs, and new ideas can come later.
Estarra2007-03-25 02:57:50
QUOTE(ceren @ Mar 24 2007, 06:52 PM) 393244
Trueheal already restores your health and mana above max, or maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you mean by this.


Ah, you're right. They could do more than usual though. In other words, if you have the angel aura and natively have trueheal, you could get 150% instead of the 120%.

BTW, we got the Magnagora crypt construct idea from what people posted on the forums. We thought the Serenwilde construct was a neat addition being we had the Moon Bubble area ready at the same time. Glomdoring has already sent us a letter regarding construct ideas. For Celest, we were having a difficult time coming up with something neat so we poked around for ideas. To say we favour them over the orgs is just plain insulting.
Xavius2007-03-25 02:58:08
QUOTE(Shou @ Mar 24 2007, 09:57 PM) 393251
I think it's already obvious what people think, and people will vote in spite because they hate Celest anyway.

Perhaps the overpowered power should just be removed in the meantime in order to sate the angry mobs, and new ideas can come later.


I think that, once you remove the trueheal clauses, you end up with the least powerful org construct, and that's not what we want either.
Unknown2007-03-25 03:01:00
QUOTE(Estarra @ Mar 24 2007, 08:57 PM) 393252
Ah, you're right. They could do more than usual though. In other words, if you have the angel aura and natively have trueheal, you could get 150% instead of the 120%.

BTW, we got the Magnagora crypt construct idea from what people posted on the forums. We thought the Serenwilde construct was a neat addition being we had the Moon Bubble area ready at the same time. Glomdoring has already sent us a letter regarding construct ideas. For Celest, we were having a difficult time coming up with something neat so we poked around for ideas. To say we favour them over the orgs is just plain insulting.

If you looked on the boards you could've seen also that most of us thought that Trueheal was not a good idea for a construct power... and pardon if it seems insulting but sometimes it comes down like it...
Unknown2007-03-25 03:01:49
QUOTE(Gwylifar @ Mar 25 2007, 02:49 AM) 393235
I don't see any evidence to think it's a case of bias. I think it's an honest mistake; they genuinely think this isn't imbalancing, and that it's on a par with Magnagora's (not quite) and Serenwilde's (not even close). And if it's a mistake then it will be fixed, as soon as its unbalancedness becomes clear, which can't take long. Let's look on the bright side! This, too, shall pass.

QFT
Unknown2007-03-25 03:02:08
QUOTE(Xavius @ Mar 24 2007, 10:58 PM) 393253
I think that, once you remove the trueheal clauses, you end up with the least powerful org construct, and that's not what we want either.


Are you sure about that? tongue.gif

Well, since all the powers seem to stem from Sacraments, and I have no clue what they do... I've got no ideas on me.